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This topic contains 88 replies, has 17 voices, and was last updated by  omen 12 years, 11 months ago.

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  • #2930

    aphra
    Keymaster

    Here is a story on the Dare to be Digital Info Day

    http://www.enn.ie/news.html?code=9385278

    Aphra.

  • #10323

    Skyclad
    Participant

    Incidentally, the exact same story was run in the December Issue of Business and Finance Magazine.

    Dave

  • #10464

    aphra
    Keymaster

    new dare to be digital information event and launch of website on Feb. 17th…see news section..

    Aphra.

  • #10561

    aphra
    Keymaster

    The Digital Hub are holding another information and networking event for the Dare to be Digital Ireland competition.

    VENUE: THE DIGITAL HUB PROJECT OFFICE, 10-13 THOMAS STREET, DUBLIN 8

    TIME: 14:00hrs

    RUNNING ORDER
    REGISTRATION: 13:30hrs
    BRIEFING SESSION: 14:00hrs
    RECEPTION: 15:00hrs

    Attendance is free but you have to register online as spaces are limited..

    go to
    the new Dare Ireland website

  • #10612

    aphra
    Keymaster

    deadline for entries for the Dare competition is noon on the 29th of March….

    time is ticking…

    Aphra.

  • #10624

    Idora
    Participant

    ‘Brightspark to enlighten Abertay’s start-ups’ – article on gamesindustry.biz related to Dare to be Digital

    http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?section_name=dev&aid=3006

  • #10626

    aphra
    Keymaster

    I am not sure if people are aware that there has been a change in the format of the Dare competition.

    The winning Irish team will now travel to Scotland and spend the 10th week development period in Abertay with the other teams.

    More info on the dare ireland website here

    Aphra.

  • #10628

    omen
    Participant

    Wasn’t that always the case?
    Was my impression anyway, seeing as the brought the Malysian team over last year.

    Damian.

  • #10629

    aphra
    Keymaster

    no the original plan was for the team to be based in the Hub for about 9 weeks of the development time and to video conference over to Abertay…they were only going to spend the last week or so in Abertay..

    Aphra.

  • #10631

    omen
    Participant

    Confusion…
    The team is spending 10 weeks in Abertay and not just the 10th week?

    That’d be cool.

  • #10643

    Skyclad
    Participant

    Aye. Means the Irish team can pick up the same prizes as the other teams now (they couldnt before).

    Dave

  • #10648

    omen
    Participant

    Thats cool.
    And just to let you know, uni res, where you’d be given accomodation isn’t bad. I stayed there during Dare last year.

    D.

  • #10930

    aphra
    Keymaster

    Just to let people know that Michael Hallissy of the Digital Hub is on Future Tense tonight on Radio 1 at 7.30 speaking about the Dare to be Digital competition.

    Aphra.

  • #10986

    aphra
    Keymaster

    the deadline for Dare Ireland is looming…hope you all have your submissions nearly ready…

    Aphra.

  • #10994

    Skyclad
    Participant

    Tick tock…twill be interesting to see how many teams enter overall. Think I know of 4, though not all are complete.

    Dave

  • #10997

    omen
    Participant

    Loads of time yet!
    Think we got our application in the morning of the deadline last year :)
    Bloody computer people, always leave things til the last minute :)

  • #10998

    aphra
    Keymaster

    yea..meeting a group from DCU this afternoon to chat about their submission..

    Aphra..

  • #11000

    omen
    Participant

    Would really like to get an idea of the kind of ideas that are going in….guess no-one is going to be willing to divulge that info though :(

  • #11001

    aphra
    Keymaster

    there seems to be some ambiguity as to what a ‘recent’ graduate is in relation to the Dare competition and what the evaluation criteria for the Irish paper submissions are…

    any help on these…?

    Aphra.

  • #11003

    omen
    Participant

    Recent graduate = if you graduated in the last year. If you graduated last summer, you are eligible, but you can only have 3 members like that i think

    evaluation criteria ??
    You’re going to be evaluated on what you are asked on in the form….I don’t know what more to say…
    Description of product….a clear and suucint product idea. The viability/marketability/creativity of said product
    Schedule – can you produce a realisitic schedule…showing some kind of knowledge of work in this area.
    Team – prove you have a team that is capable of proforming the task at hand.

  • #11004

    omen
    Participant

    Although, in regards to evaluation criteria, thats just my interpretation of what it would be judged on.
    You submit the form as if you are submitting a game spec to a publisher. You put in the relevant bits and avoid waffle. Be descriptive and to the point. With no art submission, you’ve got to get the point across with words, which is exactly what you have to do with a publisher.

    There is no definitive evaluation criteria as far as I know….its the submissions that really stick out for one reason or another that will make it through.

  • #11012

    Shane Whelan
    Participant

    A few Ballyfermot students are still looking for programmers to complete teams. The programmers need to be available as individuals or pairs — I don’t think there are any groups of game design students needing three programmers. That said, if there are any groups of programmers who need one or two artists to complete teams, there are animators interested in working on this as well. Post here for either group and I’ll pass on the info.

    Shane

  • #11030

    omen
    Participant

    For those of you who manage to get through the initial application stage, you’ll then have to do a presentation pitch of your product. I’ve just received an email indirectly with information about this.
    I’m assuming the Scottish Dare presentations will be the same as the Irish one and the following will apply :-

    ——
    In terms of past pitches, you and your team are being assessed on:
    – the market potential of the product
    – the all-round skill base of your team
    – the innovation and creativity of the product
    – your 10 week project plan- is it doable/realistic?

    People do bring concept art work etc with them (story boards)- generally the more visual the presentation, the better you can convey the message. You will only have maximum of 40 minutes.
    ——

    I guess whats going to be assessed will be the same in the initial stage, but with the presentation, you get to show visuals and show a gelled team and enthusiasm for the product. Quiet scary, but looking back on it….kinda fun too. :)

  • #11035

    aphra
    Keymaster

    The Hub just sent me through the following info which came from Abertay today..

    ‘In terms of recent graduate we have accepted people who graduated up to 24 months ago- as long as they are available and unemployed and not coming out of games companies. Maximum of 2 ‘graduates’ per team allowed. People currently in their 4th year do not count as graduates.

    Regarding criteria: The judges will be looking for the following in the application forms

    Team skills / abilities / all round?
    Clarity of application
    Market potential of product
    Creativity of product
    Ambition

    Hope this helps…

    Aphra.

  • #11101

    Midget Warden
    Participant
  • #11102

    Skyclad
    Participant

    Yikes! Kinda late to be looking for another team member? Isn’t the deadline monday?

    Dave

  • #11109

    omen
    Participant

    I’ve been mailed by an aspiring Dare entrant from Dundee about advise for presentations and such. I figured seeing as some of you will soon be in the same boat, if anyone has any questions about this, you can feel free to contact me and I can try to advise you as someone who’s gone through the process.
    If there is enough interest, I could even write up some kind of info advise page for people?

    damian

  • #11564

    aphra
    Keymaster

    it seems teams are being notified this week if they have been selected to go forward for interview in the Dare competition..best of luck to all the entrants…

    Aphra.

  • #11574

    Paul Conway
    Participant

    Yeah, we have just been notified, got selected for interview! Hurrah! However since only seven teams entered, i think they will all get a shout for interview.

    They said 6 will originally be chosen, but it would seem a little unfair to exclude 1 team, unless of course there idea or team was completely wacky or something!

    Best of Luck to everyone involved!

    May the best team win!

    Paul

    HHHmmm… nerves

  • #11582

    Skyclad
    Participant

    (as long as we are the best team that is…)

    Dave

  • #11788

    Ronny
    Participant

    There was an article that may be of interest to you on GameIndustry.biz.

    http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?section_name=dev&aid=3324

    Irish students take the Digital Dare
    More Celts join the hunt for upcoming game development talent
    Representatives of the Scottish games and technology industries are travelling to Dublin this week to choose Irish representatives for the Dare to be Digital talent contest – the first time that students outside Scotland have been able to enter the competition.

    The judges – who include Irish representatives from companies such as Microsoft Game Studios, Kapooki Games and Vivendi Games as well as the Scottish contingent – will be looking for teams with innovative, creative and realistic concepts for videogames or educational software.

    Qualifying teams will be brought to the University of Abertay Dundee for a ten week period over the summer, where they will be given access to expertise and resources in order to build a working prototype and documentation for investors.

    The winning teams will be announced in August, with a prize fund of £5000 offered along with follow-up support to develop the prototypes into real commercial products. A number of other prizes, such as games consoles, have also been donated by Microsoft.

    “NCR has supported Dare as it has grown from a local event to an international competition,” commented NCR’s director of product and interface design, Charlie Rohan, who is among the judges travelling to Dublin. “It’s caught the imagination of several key industry players due to its unique and innovative way of bringing through creative talent within the education system and beyond.”

    “Identifying and nurturing intellectual capital is increasingly important in today’s technology environment,” he continued, “and Dare sets out to do just that.”

  • #11804

    aphra
    Keymaster

    The interviews for Dare Ireland are taking place this afternoon in the Digital Hub and I think we will know the winner by about 6.30 pm ish…best of luck to all the teams participating..

    Aphra.

  • #11807

    kyotokid
    Keymaster

    The interviews for Dare Ireland are taking place this afternoon in the Digital Hub and I think we will know the winner by about 6.30 pm ish…best of luck to all the teams participating..

    Aphra. [/quote:832a968e6a]

    Then off the the pub to celebrate\drown sorrows !

    Good luck to all the teams.

  • #11826

    omen
    Participant

    Thats quick!
    They made us wait a week last year I think.

    7.15 and no sign of who the winner is yet….the tension

  • #11830

    Skyclad
    Participant

    Official announcement will be monday. Time for press releases and all that.

    Dave

  • #11834

    Paul Conway
    Participant

    never been so nervous!

    Wish they could just get it over with?

    How did everyone feel they got on?

    Monday.. :( toooo long!

  • #11835

    kyotokid
    Keymaster

    Monday???

    Bah, get into work on a saturday like the rest of us ;)

    Aaaah, the glamour of the games biz; weekends

  • #11841

    Skyclad
    Participant

    A team from DCU won apparently.

    Dave

  • #11842

    aphra
    Keymaster

    Hi all,

    Just got information on the winning team which indeed included computer students from DCU and animation students from DLIADT. Congrats to the winners and commiserations to the other teams. I know they all put in a lot of work and hopefully it will pay off in other ways..

    further info here

    Aphra.

  • #11843

    ian_hannigan
    Participant

    Hard luck there guys!

    Chin up though eh! – Keep on trucking!

  • #11846

    Grifmike
    Participant
  • #11875

    omen
    Participant

    Good luck to the winners and hard luck to the non-winners.
    I’m sure you all learned a hell of a lot out of this experience anway.

    I hope to see the winners in Dundee next summer. Chances are I won’t be here full time, but I hope to make a trip up two up to check things out.

  • #11887

    kyotokid
    Keymaster

    Yeah cause Damo has more important things – hes leaving Dundee…some lame excuse about ‘a job’ and ‘wanting money’ or something equally ridiculous.

    Pah! next he’ll be wanting ‘weekends’ and ‘holidays’ off from work

    Pah I say!

    (Oh and congrats to the teams again)

  • #11893

    omen
    Participant

    wahoo….leaving Dundee :)

    hey you never know, I heard Vis are looking for people now.

  • #11895

    Ronny
    Participant

    Guys,

    Best of luck to all of you. As mentioned already you’ve probably already learnt a lot so its all been worth it so far. Just keep at it and you could be the next Damian Furlong. ;) :p

  • #11896

    kyotokid
    Keymaster

    I heard Vis are looking for people now. [/quote:ca81d7ab43]

    *shudder* hehehehehe

  • #11915

    omen
    Participant

    Originally posted by Ronny
    Just keep at it and you could be the next Damian Furlong.[/quote:3d45126caf]

    *shudder*

  • #12013

    kyotokid
    Keymaster

    The winning concept sounds really cool!

    The winning game is a third-person puzzle/adventure set in 1950s America. The game is in the style of an old B-Movie with the game’s main character being a college student who has been turned into a monkey by an undercover Russian scientist posing as a college professor (always an issue in academia!). The student must go through a series of challenges on a college campus in order to return to his human state. Apparently the character is able to change its simian form to undergo these challenges i.e. turn into a spider monkey to go through air vents, transform into a silver-back gorilla to undertake physical challenges.[/quote:b8a4d0a419]

    My type of game – Mystical Ninja Staring Goemon meets Ape escape meets Project Eden :)

  • #12045

    Paul Conway
    Participant

    Apparently they dont know how to put the 3d models with the programming…

    Hmmm…
    Could be problems there…

  • #12047

    omen
    Participant

    Ha, wait til they have to deal with 3D Studio Max to X-file exporters! Thats where the fun lies.

  • #12053

    Festoon
    Participant

    The winning concept sounds really cool!

    My type of game – Mystical Ninja Staring Goemon meets Ape escape meets Project Eden :) [/quote:4d566ac026]

    Ah, Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon. Aside from Mario 64 possibly the best game of the last generation. For me anyway.

  • #12056

    kyotokid
    Keymaster

    Ah, Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon. Aside from Mario 64 possibly the best game of the last generation. For me anyway. [/quote:bb5824201c]

    You also really like Tempest 2000 don’t you?

    Man, you have great taste too :)

  • #12057

    kyotokid
    Keymaster
  • #12058

    bouli
    Participant

    :p Yeah that will be fun.

    Are the guys that won members of this fourm?

    Are they building there own game engine or are they using 3rd party one …..

  • #12059

    kyotokid
    Keymaster

    It would make sense if they were members of this forum, but I don’t think they are.

    Something like the torque engine would make sense…since this is a meant to be a commercial product.

    Its good, scalable and cheap.

  • #12060

    Paul Conway
    Participant
  • #12062

    aphra
    Keymaster

    I’ll let the guys know you are talking about them and invite them to participate..

    Aphra.

  • #12063

    Skyclad
    Participant

    Team More Than Games website will be up shortly :) Will have all the various bits and pieces we did for the competition, and some stuff we are still working on :)

    Dave

  • #12075

    Festoon
    Participant

    You also really like Tempest 2000 don’t you?

    Man, you have great taste too :) [/quote:ce9fe5cf7e]

    Thanks mate.;)

    I would love to see the winning guys participate here. Hopefully they will get some respect for winning the compo and get helpful suggestions instead of criticism.

  • #12077

    kyotokid
    Keymaster

    Team More Than Games website will be up shortly :) Will have all the various bits and pieces we did for the competition, and some stuff we are still working on :)

    Dave [/quote:e7b000aca1]

    Cool Skyclad, I’d love to see the work you guys did :thumbsup:

  • #12080

    andyr
    Participant

    Cheers for the best wishes lads,

    Oh, and any advice/hints will be greatly appreciated :)

    Andy
    Red Ruckus

  • #12081

    kyotokid
    Keymaster

    Hi Andy,

    Are you chaps creating an engine from scratch?

  • #12084

    aphra
    Keymaster

    Just want to welcome the Red Ruckus crew, thank them for the interview and hope we can give a hand and some advice during the forthcoming development period…best of luck..

    Aphra.

  • #12089

    omen
    Participant

    Guys,
    I’m pretty busy at the moment….long story…. but I’ll send you a long email giving you advice from what I gleamed from just reading your interview. And just some general Dare advice.
    Will be back in Scotland from today for a while so I’ll see what I can do….

  • #12098

    andyr
    Participant

    Damian,

    Cheers that’d be great.

    Andy

  • #13137

    aphra
    Keymaster

    I have just been informed that the Dare to be Digital Awards ceremony will be in Dundee on Thurs, the 26th of August, 4-9 pm. That is when we will hear how the Irish team has done….anyone know how they are getting on?

    Aphra.

  • #13152

    kyotokid
    Keymaster

    I could show my face @ the ceromonies – I suppose visual science wil be invited.

  • #13153

    omen
    Participant

    I’ll be contacting someone there on a different matter tomorrow. so I’ll ask how things are going. Gonna see if I can make an appearance at some point too.

    Awards ceremony was a invite only affair. Assume Vis Sci will get an invite although i don’t remember meeting any VisSci people there last year.

  • #13157

    kyotokid
    Keymaster

    ooooh thats fine. They are too good for me. oh I see. fine. Hope they dont ask for favours from me again.Fire me, the bastards, I made the BBC!

    I’ll see closer to the date if vissci is going.

  • #13167

    omen
    Participant

    Not sure if VisSci had much of a visible appearance with Dare last year…although at the time I was constantly getting mixed up between VisSci and Vis. Now I know they are VERY different :p

  • #13170

    bouli
    Participant

    Hey
    I will be heading up on the 16th of July with the a few others from EA

    Red Ruckus If you have any questions you’d like addressed while I am up there drop me a line

  • #13176

    omen
    Participant

    Just got asked if I wanted to attend the awards ceremony :)

  • #13177

    kyotokid
    Keymaster

    Just got asked if I wanted to attend the awards ceremony :) [/quote:40d3540a32]

    Wow!, they are desperate ;)

  • #13187

    omen
    Participant

    More like they are just making sure I don’t turn up before then :p

  • #13439

    Jamie McCormick
    Keymaster
  • #13443

    omen
    Participant

    LOL
    They spelt Kev’s name wrong :)

    He told me he was heading up there…didn’t think they were making a big deal of it ….then again, it is EA

  • #13446

    Paddy O
    Participant

    Its funny, I always wanted to come back to Northern Ireland in the summers while at Abertay so as lucrative as Dare seems to be I was never overly gutted about not entering.

    Until yesterday when some Daring (former) class mates informed me Steve was bringing EA demos, hopefully Burnout3.

    And that was the only time I was heartbroken about not entering Dare to be Digital.

  • #13491

    kyotokid
    Keymaster
  • #13497

    aphra
    Keymaster

    has Ian Marshall left as head of the School of Computing in Abertay does anyone know?

    Aphra.

  • #13505

    Paddy O
    Participant

    has Ian Marshall left as head of the School of Computing in Abertay does anyone know?[/quote:27bf79a69e]

    Yeah he has. I’m surprised they haven’t replaced him yet, they’ve known he was leaving or some time, I can’t remember where I was told he was going but it was for more of the same in a bigger institution down south, I think.

    He seemed nice enough, I only ever saw him when some important investor types would be receiving tours and he’d have to pretend that he knew what we were doing in depth :p

    The Game Tech division also lost one of their core three lectures this year, by all accounts they had someone lined up from Vis (I think it was Vis) but last I heard they still had no one confirmed.

  • #13506

    omen
    Participant

    Yup, Ian is gone….think he went to Hull or somewhere like that…again, not sure. Ian was good…never had him as a lecturer, but Dare To Be Ditigal was his creation, so a lot of kudos goes to him.
    I thought Louis Natanson was getting promoted to his position…that was the rumour anyway.
    Hadn’t heard that the lecturer position was filled…Louis told me a while back they were talking to a couple of people, good to see they have the position filled…hope they get someone as good as they had.

  • #13898

    villiros
    Participant

    Just found out they’re actually keeping a blog-like thingy on the daretobedigital.ie website. And it seems like they’ve been at it for awhile. See here. Amazing job at hiding it in plain view, really. :)

  • #13928

    aphra
    Keymaster

    yes it is very detailed..a good way of keeping an eye on how they are doing..

    Aphra

  • #14412

    aphra
    Keymaster

    anyone know the results of the Dare competition….?

    Aphra.

  • #14416

    Paddy O
    Participant

    anyone know the results of the Dare competition….?

    Aphra. [/quote:3fa3178986]

    Yeah, I’ve just been messaged to say that the marketable prize was cancelled :confused: but that ‘Just add water’ won the technical prize.

    Just add water were comprised of 2 third year (I think) Computer Artists from Abertay and three of my fellow fourth years from Computer Game Tech, their concept seemed cool and they wrote their own engine from scratch in DirectX.

    Their website is here (although it was never really updated but there is some early stuff):
    Just Add Water

    Couldn’t have happened to some nicer folk, well done guys.

  • #14432

    Paddy O
    Participant

    I’ve been speaking to two of the guys off the Just Add Water team who told me a little more:

    The marketable prize was removed to make way for a second creativity prize. So the award for creativity went to a Pixie Dust and a flash game won the innovation prize.

    Just add water won a technical excellence award which was a new prize donated by Rareware who seem to have been quite involved this year.

  • #14435

    omen
    Participant

    Rareware ??

  • #14437

    Paddy O
    Participant

    Rareware ?? [/quote:d3c921d3b8]

    Is there an echo in here, ;)

    Yeah Rareware, Rare, Goldeneye :) I think Microsoft were affiliated with the event this year and I was told that Rare were up during the event. It was one of the winning team that told me they were responsible for the prize, so don’t shoot the messenger, but they seem to have been actively recruiting too.

  • #14438

    omen
    Participant

    Rareware = Rare
    Didn’t know that.

    Eoin O’Flynn started there a short while back, you probably know him.

    Another one of these ‘in the middle of nowhere’ companies.

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