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This topic contains 12 replies, has 8 voices, and was last updated by  Skyclad 12 years, 5 months ago.

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  • #4333

    gizmo
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    Good for a giggle…:lol:

    Clicky!

  • #22892

    jediboy
    Participant

    Have you heard much about this crowd?

    http://www.thecloud.net/

    I know they were seeking a license to extend “their cloud” over the Republic, but were turned down.

    Wireless Broadband, pretty much anywhere, just top up your account like you do your phone…sounds good to me!

    -B

  • #22963

    feral
    Participant

    Good for a giggle…Laughing[/quote:b26708efac]

    I don’t understand whats humourous about that… unless it’s a hoax or some such?

    As the article stands, it could be a pretty scary precedent.
    “”The sentence we’ll seek depends on whether he was accessing the Internet for basic personal use, or using it for pecuniary gain”

    I think that they would actually seek a sentence at all if he was using the net for personal could be a dangerous precedent.

    Sure, someone that accesses your data, or steals your identity, I understand prosecuting someone for that.

    But for using your wireless access point?
    Isn’t that like doing someone for routing packets across your network? (Isn’t that exactly what they guy was doing?)

    Like, I have no idea where the packets that get routed to gd.ie from my computer go with this post.
    Most people have no idea where the data the send gets routed through. If the packets cross a router that someone has connected, but doesn’t want them to access, should the person get taken in on a felony?

    Where would the difference be, in both cases? Both open networks, advertising to route your packets to other computers on the internet…

  • #22971

    gizmo
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    Him being caught the way he was, was what I found humourous. Neither what he was doing nor the sentence he may get is, obviously…

    Wireless networks are becoming more prevalent with the spread of broadband Internet access, and many consumers are not aware of how to configure their networks to avoid unauthorized access.[/quote:beeaa99d5f]
    In that case people shouldn’t be in a position to take legal action if someone accesses their network accidently… Malicious or intentional use is another matter but I don’t see it becoming a major issue. Bottom line is, if you don’t want people accessing YOUR wireless network then take the appropriate measures. If someone bypasses this maliciously then you should be entitled to tackle them on the issue.

    Basically I think its like trespassing on private property, if theres a sign clearly there stating this fact people a) won’t go in and b) if they do, they have no excuse if caught. However if there’s no sign there at all or its not clearly visible then the person can say he didn’t know he was on private property, whether he did or not is not the issue, the warning wasn’t made available to him so he won’t be held accountable.

  • #22972

    omen
    Participant

    Its a bit like watching your tv through your window. They aren’t paying anytihng for it and are trespassing to get stuff without paying.

  • #22982

    Idora
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    Its a bit like watching your tv through your window. They aren’t paying anytihng for it and are trespassing to get stuff without paying.[/quote:891047925b]is that similar to downloading your content and not paying for it?! Hmmmm…..

  • #22983

    Nifty
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    The difference i see there, is that if you watch TV over someone’s shoulder you aren’t affecting their ability to use the service (lets assume they aren’t away of you, and so aren’t creeped out too much). But if you use someone’s wireless service it could be argued that you taking away from the service provided to paying customers

  • #22986

    gizmo
    Participant

    True, but remember that network is technically you’re property. Its really no different than some “borrowing” your car without asking you..when you put it like that its pretty black and white! :D

  • #22991

    catbert
    Participant

    Routing technology would tend to follow the owner/proprietor model rather than the greatest available bandwidth model, which predisposes networking standards to provide legally bounded services rather than performance bounded services.
    But wouldnt you rather the ideal of the brave new world of freedom of speech, of anonymity and the infinite extensibility of personal expression that the internet is supposed to be providing?

  • #22993

    omen
    Participant

    The difference i see there, is that if you watch TV over someone’s shoulder you aren’t affecting their ability to use the service (lets assume they aren’t away of you, and so aren’t creeped out too much). But if you use someone’s wireless service it could be argued that you taking away from the service provided to paying customers[/quote:92b92a673a]

    If you knew they were doing it and kept checking out the window, then it would be affecting your ability to use the service :)

  • #22996

    Idora
    Participant

    The difference i see there, is that if you watch TV over someone’s shoulder you aren’t affecting their ability to use the service (lets assume they aren’t away of you, and so aren’t creeped out too much). But if you use someone’s wireless service it could be argued that you taking away from the service provided to paying customers[/quote:f45961615c]

    If you knew they were doing it and kept checking out the window, then it would be affecting your ability to use the service :)[/quote:f45961615c]or if they were standing on your geraniums in order to peek through the window…

  • #23000

    omen
    Participant

    The difference i see there, is that if you watch TV over someone’s shoulder you aren’t affecting their ability to use the service (lets assume they aren’t away of you, and so aren’t creeped out too much). But if you use someone’s wireless service it could be argued that you taking away from the service provided to paying customers[/quote:e5cc6ffd35]

    If you knew they were doing it and kept checking out the window, then it would be affecting your ability to use the service :)[/quote:e5cc6ffd35]or if they were standing on your geraniums in order to peek through the window…[/quote:e5cc6ffd35]
    Or your rose bush and they kept saying “ouch”

  • #23002

    Skyclad
    Participant

    The difference i see there, is that if you watch TV over someone’s shoulder you aren’t affecting their ability to use the service (lets assume they aren’t away of you, and so aren’t creeped out too much). But if you use someone’s wireless service it could be argued that you taking away from the service provided to paying customers[/quote:c38a4c32e1]

    If you knew they were doing it and kept checking out the window, then it would be affecting your ability to use the service :)[/quote:c38a4c32e1]or if they were standing on your geraniums in order to peek through the window…[/quote:c38a4c32e1]
    Or your rose bush and they kept saying “ouch”[/quote:c38a4c32e1]
    Or emm…emmm…I really just want to see how small the quote box can get…

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