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This topic contains 17 replies, has 7 voices, and was last updated by  gizmo 11 years, 10 months ago.

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  • #4815

    kyotokid
    Keymaster

    With Steam getting loads of new content from developers

    e.g.

    Warren spectors new game
    Red Orchestra UT mod
    Ragdoll Kung-Fu
    Darwinia

    Will there still be a place for manifesto games distribution network?

    Valve’s Steam system will be the go to place for your Indie games fix…I can even see “Duke Nukem Delayed Forever” swapping over to use Steam

    Discuss.

    http://www.manifestogames.com
    http://www.steampowered.com/

  • #27602

    philippe_j
    Participant

    could you please explain what you mean by “Manifesto Games”?
    I was under the impression that Valve were precisely opening a new route for any indie developers who would want to eschew traditional publishers, which is something I consider a Good Thing(tm).

  • #27607

    kyotokid
    Keymaster

    I was under the impression that Valve were precisely opening a new route for any indie developers who would want to eschew traditional publishers…..[/quote:43adc8f8d1]

    …..and thats what Manifesto Games are wanting to do too, hence me post :p

    http://www.manifestogames.com/

    [note to self: use ‘hence’ more]

  • #27616

    obscure
    Participant

    I don’t think retail will die any time within the next 5-10 years so a new, developer friendly publisher is a good thing.

  • #27621

    kyotokid
    Keymaster

    I am not saying anything about retail, I am just wondering will some of the wind be taken from the sails of Manifesto Games…

    I think more avenues (steam…) for developers to get a bigger slice of the pie is obviously excellent.

  • #27633

    gizmo
    Participant

    Another coup for Steam…Warren Spector has signed up to distribute new his studios new PC title over the network.

    Source + Spector = I like.
    :D

    Was there a pun intended at the end of that comment kyotokid?
    “the sails of Manifesto..” ?? :lol:

  • #27634

    lk_
    Participant

    Just please god let his next title be better than Deus Ex 2, completely dropped the ball on that one in my opinion.

  • #27636

    gizmo
    Participant

    Yes but he wasnt involved in that project. He had moved onto Thief 3 as Project Lead at that stage afaik…

  • #27642

    lk_
    Participant

    Groovy sig…. :lol:

  • #27643

    gizmo
    Participant

    Hrm, its a work in progress… 8)

    EDIT: And there we…that can stay for awhile until I get my hands at some Photoshoppage

  • #27973

    philippe_j
    Participant

    (and it’s bloody huge, that sig, can’t you make it smaller?)

    Right, so Manifesto games is a company. I thought you were talking of a style of games, like that described by Ernest Adams in his Dogma games article.
    Anyway, I don’t see why there wouldn’t be any room for a competitor.
    One thing that greatly, nay immensely, annoys me about Valve is that it is completely and utterly dependant on the fact that you are a rich kid with a ADSL line.
    I am sorry, but I don’t have such a line. In fact, as I mentioned earlier on those forums, I only managed to play Halflife2 (which I _own_) thanks to my connections and a nice haxored copy of said title.
    I think that’s fecking ridiculous.

    So maybe Manifesto could try a slightly different approach?

    Anyway, yes, I think there is room. You just need to think and come up with something the competition doesn’t have :P

  • #29082

    Cosmonaut
    Participant

    A bit of cometition in the independant sector isnt going to hurt any1.

    Its great to see valve give Darwinia a second chance. But in reality, for the most part, its only the hardcore gamer that buys these games.

    Johnny common loves his box and manual.

  • #29084

    gizmo
    Participant

    Hrm, while I do think that online distribution of games is a good thing and that systems like Steam which keep all your games up to date are a great thing, I really do think I’d miss that lovely feeling of walking into a shop, buying a game you’ve been waiting for ages to play, flicking through the manual on the way home from town and then throwing it into the CD/DVD tray for the first time when you get home…don’t think its anything to be ashamed of tbh! :D

  • #29091

    omen
    Participant

    But in reality, for the most part, its only the hardcore gamer that buys these games.

    Johnny common loves his box and manual.[/quote:49c68bddff]

    Emm…I would have thought that the hard-core gamer would love his boxes more. I’ve only ever returned one game to a shop and that was because I got it free and don’t own a PS2.

  • #29096

    Cosmonaut
    Participant

    lol okay fair enough. In the case of steam though, the ultimate Half Life 2 pack was around the $135 mark, which i cant see some1 whos not a huge fan of the series buying.

    But i think its more that the games that are tending to pop up are indy titles, and i would imagine in general only advanced PC users would use services which download games to your pc, like steam or direct2drive.

    I agree with your box thing though, i still have all my Amiga 600 boxes stuck under my bed. And they aint small!

  • #29099

    omen
    Participant

    Yeah, thats crazy money and yeah, jope public isn’t going to use Steam until its recognised to be reliable, or they have to ( in the case of HL ).

    Ah, big game boxes and manuals with lots of interesting stuff in them. They were great…
    I remember I had “Battle of Britain:1940” on the Amiga, big box with a big manual. Had a full section on the history of the Battle of Britian. Was excellent. I miss things like that…

  • #29104

    Cosmonaut
    Participant

    And the Sensible Golf Manual with ‘Golf: An introduction for Aliens’ section.

    I havent read a manual for a long time i must admit, but only because ive been binging on run of the mill First person shooters for a long time.

    Still, ive just gotten Civ4, and looking at the manual (which ill be forced to read) im glad its in my hands, rather then a 400 leaf PDF file.

  • #29116

    gizmo
    Participant

    Oh, speaking of big boxes, my lovely US Half-Life box, bloody HUGE tbh although there was feck all inside it. :D

    Biggest manual I ever saw came with Falcon 4.0 that my cousin got, can’t remember how many pages but I do remember it coming full bound in ring binder form, looked VERY detailed… :?

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