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This topic contains 15 replies, has 9 voices, and was last updated by  gearoidc 11 years, 6 months ago.

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  • #5062

    Cosmonaut
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    Take Two, the publisher of the Grand Theft Auto game series, is once again facing yet another frivolous a lawsuit that alleges its software was complicit in murder. The legal action was filed on behalf of the families of police force staff shot dead in Fayette, Alabama in 2003, allegedly by one Devin Thompson. Thompson was apprehended on suspicion of driving a stolen car. The lawsuit maintains that Thompson’s actions that day were inspired by the GTA series, games he is claimed to have played obsessively. The games amount to “training” for the alleged killings. The lawsuit claims the video game “Grand Theft Auto” led a Thompson to shoot two police officers, Arnold Strickland and James Crump, and a dispatcher, Leslie Mealer, to death in 2003, mirroring violent acts depicted in the popular game. Thompson is accused of killing the three men in June 2003 after being brought to the Fayette police station on suspicion of driving a stolen car. Thompson allegedly grabbed one of the officer’s guns, shot him and the other two, then fled in a patrol car. “What has happened in Alabama is that four companies participated in the training of Devin … to kill three men,” attorney Jack Thompson told The Tuscaloosa News, which reported the suit’s filing.

    Thompson is now 18 years old, but at the time of the shootings he was 16. As such, the lawsuit claims, he should not have been sold GTA III and GTA: Vice City, which carry an M rating – for ‘mature audience only’, ie. anyone 17 years old or more. On that basis, the plaintiffs requested that the book also be thrown at retailers Wal-Mart and Gamestop for allegedly allowing Thompson to buy the games. It also names Sony, as manufacturer of the PlayStation 2 console on which Thompson is said to have played the games. This isn’t the first time GTA has got its publisher and retail partners in trouble. At least two lawsuits relating to the game are currently pending against Take Two and, separately, BestBuy. The lawsuit was announced in the same week that the US Interactive Entertainment Merchants Association (IEMA) publicly criticised the California legislature’s attempt to ban the sale of violent games to children.
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    The ignorance of some people is baffleing.
    These are the same people who thought you’d go to hell if you watched The Exorcist and the same moron who though you’d choke if you went in a car over 5mph.
    Just waitin for the day when this idiotic waffle doesnt get through the doors of the court, but it just seems to be getting worse.

    Incedentally, this guy was caught just before he drove his Yakuza Stinger into a Pay ‘n’ Spray. Poor lad, just seconds away from loosing the 3 stars. :roll:

  • #29568

    erckle
    Participant

    By the same standards shouldnt they also be trying to bring Beretta and Smith and Wesson before the courts for their parts in this? For supplying firearms. Although then your opening up the “right to bare arms” legal issue in america!
    It just seems to be another way to pass the responsibility. If its not the parents, its the teachers, or the government or the video games developers for making games, or the gun manufacturers for making the guns, or even the driving instructor for teaching the kid how to drive! Next thing you know they’re going to attribute “Death by a thousand paper cuts” style torture, to a game of solitaire!* It was the kid that shot those three police officers, not anyone at Sony, Take Two, Rockstar, or any one else. Therefore it should be the kid that feels the full extent of the law!
    This is a very sad case and must be devastating for the families of the officers involved.

    *I do not condone torture in any way shape or form, but am merely using it for illustrative purposes.

  • #29570

    kyotokid
    Keymaster

    I’d imagine that all they would have to prove is that a similar crime also happen before GTA wass released.

    Meh, its not even worth worring or acknowledging these lawsuits anymore.

  • #29572

    dillon
    Participant

    and here’s some more madness from our good friend Mr. Thompson

    http://gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=14650

  • #29573

    gizmo
    Participant

    Thompson then argues that the PS2’s dualshock controller “desensitises the user to the act of killing” because it “sends a visceral jolt back into the hands of the player each time he kills.”[/quote:5bc3bbaf4d]
    I love this guy. So by that same logic, shock treatment is used to encourage complusive behaviour in the medical sector? :lol:

    As for the rest, meh, I’m not going to comment. I’m just sick of this guy at this stage…:roll:

    Nice to see Thompson getting around his licence being revoked in Florida though. :D

  • #29576

    Cosmonaut
    Participant
  • #29577

    Cosmonaut
    Participant

    Sorry if this is spamming, but i just came across this quote regarding Jack Thomsons legal argument about EA ‘letting’ modders, replace the naked blur effects in Sims2 with male/female anatomy:

    “EA has to either go after the porn modders or acknowledge that they are working with them, in effect.”
    -Jack Thompson[/quote:19453916db]

    This guy is insane…

  • #29584

    mal
    Participant

    These guys could be sued for training missile operators…

    http://www.everythingusb.com/usb_air_darts.html

    Or for encouraging the manslaughter of whoever buys it and uses it at the office.

    Mal

  • #29585

    catbert
    Participant

    You know, there always have been crazy people, and there always will be – they’re the ones who aren’t like you.
    In fact, most noticable people can be called mentally distinct, or ‘crazy’. These are the ones who do something that we notice, like make great art, create breakthrough science or rule the world. The fact that some of them are crazy in a way we don’t like is just a bonus.
    Makes life interesting.
    Thank you Mr. Thompson, for being interesting. You crazy law-talkin guy.

  • #29589

    Cosmonaut
    Participant

    You know, there always have been crazy people, and there always will be – they’re the ones who aren’t like you. [/quote:326fb12b22]
    Gee thanks Mr.Rogers, for your amazingly deep and insightfull lesson.

    There are crazy people. I should know, I live across the road from a mental hospital. Sometimes they knock on our door and demand glasses of water. Theyre crazy. People in Iraq who blow themselves up for a laugh. Theyre also crazy. And you, you’re crazy.

    These are the ones who do something that we notice, like make great art, create breakthrough science or rule the world[/quote:326fb12b22]
    Thats true. There are crazy people who do those things. Equally, there are also crazy people who do none of those things. Contrast this to all the normal people who do those things. And naturally the normal people who do not do them.

    Zing.

    </flame>

    I understand there are people from all the colours of the rainbow, but that doesnt mean i cant hate people if i want to.
    I hate him.
    I hate hitler.
    I hate the libertines.
    I hate mud.

    I hate, therefore i am.

  • #29593

    catbert
    Participant

    You know, there always have been crazy people, and there always will be – they’re the ones who aren’t like you. [/quote:d6546e00aa]
    Gee thanks Mr.Rogers, for your amazingly deep and insightfull lesson.
    [/quote:d6546e00aa]

    The point was not that no one is like you, but that no one is quite like anyone else. Qualitative contextual differences are immense and the process of communication happens in an almost infintely complex domain.

    No one is normal. The fact that you misunderstood my argument just validates it. It should have been a no-brainer, from my point of view.

  • #29603

    Cosmonaut
    Participant

    I hav an article saved somwhere regarding a proposal Jack Thomson made to the Penny Arcade group, in which he got completely pwnd.

    Another great article here:
    http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/jack-thompson/jack-thompson-gets-pwned-nationally-130958.php
    Apparently his links with the National Institute on Media and the Family arent as solid as he’d like people to believe.

  • #29611

    Skyclad
    Participant

    And more importantly, i was using hyperbole in the first place you tool.

    If you have a problem with this post, PM me.
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    If you dont have something constructive to say, or you feel that someone might take your post personally, then dont post it?

  • #29616

    Cosmonaut
    Participant

    Noted.

  • #29646

    dillon
    Participant

    another group out to protect civilisation as we know it has called for a ban on gta

    http://tinyurl.com/7pazj

  • #29649

    gearoidc
    Participant

    … legal action was filed on behalf of the families of police force staff shot de…..[/quote:2aebc783b2]

    on the other side Thompson was asked to do a job and hes doing it. if he did not pick up the job, im sure someone else would have.

    anyway,seems like its just an extension of the suing culture in America or maybe thats a sweeping statement :?:
    –g

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