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This topic contains 31 replies, has 17 voices, and was last updated by  philippe_j 12 years, 1 month ago.

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  • #4706

    UsagiYojimbo
    Participant

    Weve all seen Unreal 3, the Xbox 360 stuff, the Playstation 3 stuff etc. and in a months time for the Xbox stuff anyway this will be current gen. So what is next gen really in todays terms? What real time wonders can we expect to see on the horizon?

  • #26662

    kyotokid
    Keymaster

    Most of the stuff out there is not next-gen to me, only using technology to advance gameplay, not gfx, is next-gen to me.

    I really dont want super duper graphics if is just more of the same.

    I think the new consoles will give the opportunity for new gmae experiences because of their power.

    [fanboy]Oh and Nintendo Revolution – THATS NEXT GEN ! [/fanboy]

    360 does nothing for me. Oh look…shiny games. zzzzzzz

    -Ivan

  • #26664

    Ronny
    Participant
  • #26672

    UsagiYojimbo
    Participant
  • #26674

    Steph
    Participant

    I’m still waiting to play (-say- racing games) with affordable, in-your-home VR… years on :cry:

    That’ll be next gen.

  • #26676

    peter_b
    Participant
  • #26682

    darf_danno
    Participant

    Next gen for me will not be about graphics, with the new generation being born with the xbox 360, these should be able to push some semblance of photorealism. So what of the next next gen? They will have to think of some new gimick to sell the consoles, just look at the revolution not as powerful as the others but hey it doesnt matter, ninty have made a GAMES machine for GAMES, not a hybrid PC, DVD etc… And that new controller, love or hate it it offers so many new gaming possibilities (check out the video link on website to it, I love the chef doing some cooking)

    http://www.nintendo.com

    And thats where nintendo should be kings in the next next gen. They have the ideas that the others follow. As for what it could be, well AI and sound will be improved (as always) but the medium (controller) that we play our games through could change too. Gone will be the joypads or old and replaced with a joypad that befits the new games.

  • #26700

    Skyclad
    Participant

    Its going to be about pretier graphics in high definition with lots of thing happening and lots more ‘background activity’ creating a more immersive game world for the player.

    Gameplay wont improve, if anything, the new power will go to peoples head to the point that they make things infinitely more complicated to play.

    Dave

  • #26701

    omen
    Participant

    I unfortunatelly agree with Dave.
    Some other things may evolve, but primarily and especially at the start, graphics is the one you’ll see and especially hear lots about.

  • #26703

    Nooptical
    Participant

    Thats why I will get an Xbox for my graphics whore side and a Revolution for the innovation! :D

  • #26706

    lk_
    Participant

    Next gen to me means higher prices and pretty much more of the same….

  • #26707

    maniacrobot
    Participant

    Honestly to me next gen means Riker, Picard, Worf and Q :D

  • #26708

    kyotokid
    Keymaster

    Honestly to me next gen means Riker, Picard, Worf and Q :D[/quote:437b07d359]

    ho ho !

  • #26718

    lk_
    Participant

    Honestly to me next gen means Riker, Picard, Worf and Q :D[/quote:7da81a193e]

    Better than the rest of the crap in the name of Star Trek

  • #26719

    P.J.
    Participant

    What does next gen mean for people trying to get into the industry in the next couple of years? in my case computer programmers…

  • #26721

    jediboy
    Participant

    Yeah Picard really was the only one who could tackle Kirk’s reputation. The rest are so lame.

    Captain Janeway, she’s just a trumped up babysitter!

    As for Mr. Quantum Leap, he’s crap without his Holo Buddy Al (or Hal) whatever.

    Now that this is said, I can respond to the real topic:
    Next Gen to me means bigger games, that will take a month to get through. Levels so big, your characters will hail a taxi to get across town. Can’t imagine how big and detailed RockStar’s next offering is going to be…

    I think photorealism, bigger-better cut-scenes that go on for ages are gonna be smuggled into every end-level sequence.

    AI I’m sure will get some promotion. What about 5.1 Surround Sound, any mention of any of the consoles implementing that??

    At the end of the day, I hate the fact that they are still limited to displaying on a TV. Fine, WOW, they also support HDTV. It’s still flat.

    Can we please have a new display medium? Now that would truly be next-gen.

    (Must go to the patents office with a couple of sketches….)

  • #26723

    Max Marshall
    Participant

    It will also mean bigger production costs, longer production times (maybe up to 5 years), and less games being released per annum. It will also mean the death to many companies that aren’t giants like EA and can’t muster up the astronomical budgets required to develop and release a Next Gen title.

  • #26724

    omen
    Participant

    Ha! 5 year life-cycles. Never! It just beens 12 months crunch instead of 6 months for EA :)

  • #26727

    Max Marshall
    Participant

    Wow! that means you might end up doing 12 month crunch time man, thats intense.

  • #26729

    omen
    Participant

    never happen…i’ll guarantee you that.
    rather work in a bank!

  • #26730

    Pete
    Participant

    EAB? :wink:

  • #26792

    UsagiYojimbo
    Participant

    seems the outlook is that next generation = nicer eye candy with 5.1 (7.1?) sound. WHAT ABOUT THE GAME PLAY PEOPLES????

  • #26798

    Skyclad
    Participant

    Are you waiting for us to suggest that we think gameplay will improve as a result of the next gen consoles? Gameplay isnt about upgrading the power levels sadly.

  • #26803

    omen
    Participant

    Game-play….there’ll be more physics and probably more ai chugging in the background. Things will look more realistic and more will be happening. However, none of that relates to game-play or game design. If anything, these factors will probably get in the way of it.

  • #26808

    lk_
    Participant

    Some of the classic games like Elite will probably still have better game play than anything using the latest engines. Sadly as has been pointed out better gameplay doesnt always go hand in hand with better graphics. Too many developers thing fancy graphics can hide a poor game.

  • #26809

    Max Marshall
    Participant

    I reckon that you generally can’t make a commercial success out of a console/PC game without it having amazing graphics. I think that the general game playing public have come to expect it as a standard, If the back of the box dosen’t have brilliant screenshot of the game it wont be bought by the masses, irrespective of it actually being a great game or not.

  • #26811

    peter_b
    Participant

    Some of the classic games like Elite will probably still have better game play than anything using the latest engines. Sadly as has been pointed out better gameplay doesnt always go hand in hand with better graphics. Too many developers thing fancy graphics can hide a poor game.[/quote:121644d5dd]

    what about elite re-invented with a new engine :)

  • #26813

    lk_
    Participant

    Some of the classic games like Elite will probably still have better game play than anything using the latest engines. Sadly as has been pointed out better gameplay doesnt always go hand in hand with better graphics. Too many developers thing fancy graphics can hide a poor game.[/quote:75887a8eba]

    what about elite re-invented with a new engine :)[/quote:75887a8eba]

    That would be swwwwwwwwwwweeet…er I mean if they also made the game play even better…

  • #26815

    FreaK_BrutheR
    Participant

    My children.

  • #26818

    omen
    Participant

    Too many developers thing fancy graphics can hide a poor game.[/quote:2a44a26aa4]

    To a degree I think thats true, but to a greater degree, I’d put that blame on the publisher. Demos that go to them generally have to be really shiny or they aren’t liked. A good tech demo without shiny art isn’t liked. Hence the shininess is what has to be worked on, and as a result, game-play gets lost in the mix.

  • #26819

    lk_
    Participant

    Aye its difficult for a developer to make the game they want when the publisher is the one with all the cash….

    Anyone read Mark Reins comments at IGN Live conference, legend :lol:

  • #26821

    philippe_j
    Participant

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