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there’s a very long list. [/quote:f57795c011]

But that is the point I’m trying to make, it is a term that is thrown around a lot and it can mean different things to different people. You said it is a very long list, and that is the problem. The elements of that list bring can bring up all sorts of potential issues that are not black and white. The term "IP" compresses all these into a single term that can confuse – Especially to people who do not understand them.

If we are talking about reform copyright and patent law it is going to involve lawmakers. Politicians are very good at taking a term that is a hot topic or important around and making bad law around it in an attempt to please interests or get votes.[/quote:f57795c011]

I dont agree with you at all. It seems your suggestion is that every time we want to reference these IP rights generally you think we must list out all of the rights that we are referring to. I do not think the term means different things to different people. Just because the list is long does not mean that what is included in it is contested. Thats why it is so easy to agree the definition. We shall have to agree to differ.