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I could be wrong here but would fine arts not be too traditional in terms of medium whereas something like industrial design emphasises a lot of combining new technology with traditional methods. You do a lot of 3d modelling in industrial design.[/quote:b151bf9037]you might well be right, judesherry – I was emphasising the ‘foundational’ – i.e. being able to draw, etc. as essential rather than as optional extras. And to echo your point, some of the best designers I know have a background in industrial design