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24/06/2004 at 9:33 am #3277AnonymousInactive
A word of warning to any Driver fans out there, Driv3r is an absoloute disgrace!, it’s engine can barely drawn the horizon and many of the in game animations have been obviously cut, Bug’s are present too! in massive amounts, ie: falling through the ground, getting sucked out of your car. its a pity really, I was rather looking forward to it, thank god my brother got it first and saved me the money. shame on you reflection studios.
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24/06/2004 at 10:21 am #12917AnonymousInactive
Uhh? I’ve been playing it for a couple of days now, I’m more than half way through Instanbul and haven’t had any significant problems at all!!!
XBOX or PS2?
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24/06/2004 at 10:58 am #12918AnonymousInactive
X-Box mate, no seriously have you not noticed how poor the draw distance is or how the Frame Rate drops when you take corners, is was initionally convinced I had got a black box copy, but now its just obvious that the game was rushed!, enlighten me if I am wronging reflection studios.
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24/06/2004 at 10:59 am #12919AnonymousInactive
“i’ll cry when i’m done killing”???
Ichi the killer? -
24/06/2004 at 11:37 am #12921AnonymousInactive
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24/06/2004 at 11:57 am #12924AnonymousInactive
X-Box mate[/quote:059c9ad3fa]
Well that’s your problem. Next time don’t get yourself an inferior console. ;)Originally posted by Ian Hannigan
Get yerself a PS2 for gods sake man!!!!!!!!!!![/quote:059c9ad3fa]
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24/06/2004 at 12:02 pm #12927AnonymousInactive
Everyone I know hates PS2, as a platform for games and as a platform to make gmes on.
I agree with them.
The good thing about it is it is so massmarket it gets some whacky games = me like.
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24/06/2004 at 12:04 pm #12928AnonymousInactive
and….back to DRIV3R (luv typing tha) being buggy ;)
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24/06/2004 at 12:05 pm #12929AnonymousInactive
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24/06/2004 at 12:21 pm #12931AnonymousInactive
It really does sadden me that in 2004 bug-ridden console games are coming out in droves. Don’t Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft put all games through QA to ensure to meets the requirements necessary? Or has that just become a formality now? Has money really silenced quality?
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24/06/2004 at 12:23 pm #12932AnonymousInactive
UKR is the biz! That must be a review code disc for the xbox version then yeah? =]
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24/06/2004 at 12:36 pm #12933AnonymousInactive
Ian man if you think the PS2 is superior to the X-Box then all hope is lost to you. THe problems i am encountering should be even less obvious on the X-Box due to it’s superior processing and graphical power!……….and besides its still not acepyable from Reflections to be releasing such tripe codeing, honestly!
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24/06/2004 at 12:38 pm #12934AnonymousInactive
Oh and befoe this turns into a heated my console is better than yours debate let it be know that I have all major consoles and just as my opinion consider the X-Box technically superioir to the rest.
I’m not interested in arguing about petty console issues, its the game thats at fault here
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24/06/2004 at 12:55 pm #12935AnonymousInactive
I’m not interested in arguing about petty console issues, its the game thats at fault here[/quote:3a6eaa734d]
Same here! it’s the game we’re talking about but from what I’ve played and what’s being reported, there appears to be some major quality differences between the two versions of the game – not the actual consoles themselves!
Going on what I’ve seen of Driver 3 so far (about 80%) of the missions / driving games / “take a ride” option etc and considering its size I have seen minor detail type bugs but I definitely haven’t seen anything that would explain the comments in this thread???
Can ye give examples of the class of bugs yer finding? Have I gone blind? Falling through the ground???? getting sucked out of your car???? Frame Rate drops when you take corners??? I’m not getting any of that!
I’m usually handy at spotting bugs??????
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24/06/2004 at 1:38 pm #12936AnonymousInactive
Well Ian I was “having a burn” as it were last night.. I was going down a street when i Spotted a Dodge Viper, being a lad and all I wanted to take her for a ride so I (tried) got out of my car only to be draggeged through it and exiting out the rear of the vehicle via the boot.
on another occasion a car literally appeared in front of me whilst I was driving!, madness.
but I think you are right Ian, seeing as Driver originated on a Sony Console you would expect them to spend the most time on this particular version…..all I can say is poor awld X-Box owners. tis apity, because other than that Driv3r is a superb game
Shin-reppu-ken
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24/06/2004 at 1:44 pm #12937AnonymousInactive
As you said you own the big three. If I were you I’d go back to the shop and beg them to exchange it for a PS2 version.
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24/06/2004 at 1:49 pm #12938AnonymousInactive
Maybe the port was left very late, or maybe it had to be left as late as possible ;)
Either way if that’s the case with the X-Box Version then personally I’d be bringing it back and getting a PS2 copy if you’ve got all major consoles!!!
So far I’ve had an uninterrupted ball with the bloody thing ;~)
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24/06/2004 at 1:59 pm #12941AnonymousInactive
I will take your advice guy’s!.
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24/06/2004 at 2:10 pm #12942AnonymousInactive
Did you guy it in Game? They should exchange it no problem.
Anyway, all this talk about Driver has got me excited, to the shops!
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24/06/2004 at 2:31 pm #12943AnonymousInactive
“to the shops”……………
your tellin me ronny boy!
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24/06/2004 at 2:42 pm #12944AnonymousInactive
but I think you are right Ian, seeing as Driver originated on a Sony Console you would expect them to spend the most time on this particular version…..all I can say is poor awld X-Box owners. tis apity, because other than that Driv3r is a superb game[/quote:822f18b042]
You’re right! This reflects very badly on Reflections as a professional games studio and for some gamers, Driver 3 will always be that great game that was ruined by a low quality / buggy release. There are Reflections & Atari logos on the X-Box version too ;(
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24/06/2004 at 2:48 pm #12945AnonymousInactive
Yes there are, and gamers have a habit of holding grudges Atari! so you would be wise too invest more time next time around….
ah well I always have Stree Fighter
Hado-Ken!
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24/06/2004 at 4:19 pm #12949AnonymousInactive
You’re right! This reflects very badly on Reflections as a professional games studio and for some gamers, Driver 3 will always be that great game that was ruined by a low quality / buggy release. There are Reflections & Atari logos on the X-Box version too ;( [/quote:f567835fb4]
I think it only reflects (sic) badly on Atari really. Since people know that if Reflections is a decent studio (stuntman aside).
Surely its more a case of cruel deadlines + bad publisher = shit game.
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24/06/2004 at 4:48 pm #12952AnonymousInactive
Ok they are playing in work here at the moment on Ps2.
The textures are what 4 bit – 16 colours?
The main character runs like a dick.
The chasing is harsh and boring.
You have to walk right up to baddies and blam blam blam.Cutscenes are nice though :p
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25/06/2004 at 7:07 am #12954AnonymousInactive
Ok they are playing in work here at the moment on Ps2.
The textures are what 4 bit – 16 colours?
The main character runs like a dick.
The chasing is harsh and boring.
You have to walk right up to baddies and blam blam blam.Cutscenes are nice though :p [/quote:2a1b27a0b4]
NUTSHELL!
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25/06/2004 at 12:22 pm #12958AnonymousInactive
Harsh Nutshell ;)
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25/06/2004 at 12:45 pm #12959AnonymousInactive
possibly
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25/06/2004 at 1:06 pm #12961AnonymousInactive
Maybe the marketing people have unwittingly said it better than we ever could:
GOOD
BAD
BOTHCheers,
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25/06/2004 at 1:07 pm #12963AnonymousInactive
Where is that?
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25/06/2004 at 1:33 pm #12965AnonymousInactive
And they have shipped over 2 million copies to retailers
must not letterbomb atari
must not letterbomb atari
must not letterbomb atari
must not letterbomb atariI thin ‘Atari’ are trying to cause consumer hatre towards games again ala early 80’s market collapse
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25/06/2004 at 2:18 pm #12966AnonymousInactive
WAX my Balls Atari……………………:cool:
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29/06/2004 at 10:41 am #13029AnonymousInactive
Its another example of a poor game on Xbox due to the lowest common develoment denominator – The PS2.
Developers are making games for all platforms, but they are building them to run on the PS2 first and foremost which often results in very poor ports going to Xbox and Gamecube due to differing architecture, and the developers not being willing to put the time in to port the game correctly.
It basically means that multi-console games are usually subpar especially in terms of graphics and framerate when they are played on higher spec machines like the Xbox. If you compare an Xbox exclusive game like Halo 2 to something like Driv3r you can see the obvious differances.
It comes down to two things:
1. The “unique” PS2 architecture
2. Developer lazinessThats one of the reasons why nearly 90% of my Xbox games are 1st/2nd party games or 3rd party exclusives. I didn’t buy my xbox to play PS2 ports…….
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29/06/2004 at 12:14 pm #13038AnonymousInactive
http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=253605
Apparently Atari have fixed review scores
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29/06/2004 at 12:21 pm #13040AnonymousInactive
If that is true than thats a disgrace.
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29/06/2004 at 12:27 pm #13041AnonymousInactive
Serves them right for releaseing such tribe, seriously this isn’t industry standard at all!
releasing such buggy code on to the general public is an insulting act…for god sake the game was in development long enough, I’m surprised at inforammes/Atari, i had more respect for them.shame
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29/06/2004 at 5:58 pm #13054AnonymousInactive
Yeah…but….its at number 1 in the charts.
In think some regulating body (elspa?) look into Atari’s activities ;)
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29/06/2004 at 8:40 pm #13062AnonymousInactive
I think you are right Ian, seeing as Driver originated on a Sony Console you would expect them to spend the most time on this particular version[/quote:3443a4e5a1]
Isn’t it the case that most company’s, when doing ports for several platforms usually base development on the PS2 version. That version is then ported down for the GC and ported up for the XBox versions.
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30/06/2004 at 7:15 am #13066AnonymousInactive
I think this multi-platform releasing is starting to show a few cracks,eh.
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30/06/2004 at 9:56 am #13068AnonymousInactive
That version is then ported down for the GC and ported up for the XBox versions. [/quote:66b060579f]
Well, technically is it ported “up” for both GC and Xbox. But seeing as the code is based on PS2 architecture it proves very difficult to port “up”. Most of the time the ports tend to be inferior to the PS2 version, which in my opinion is a complete waste of the extra power the GC and especially the Xbox have over the PS2……..
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30/06/2004 at 10:20 am #13071AnonymousInactive
Thats where the “money” issues come into play noopitcal.
*publishers brain at work*
1 game= money
2 game= more money
3 game= a considerable wad of cash in my pocketPublishers conclusion
3 games is good
developers concur, yes but we’ll have to do a bugger on the ports
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30/06/2004 at 10:24 am #13072AnonymousInactive
I remember the days when certain types of games were platform specific. And I distinctly remember being outrageously jealous that I couldn’t play Resi on me Snes(no laughing please), these days such concerns are obsolete, as most games appear on all platforms with the exception of Nintendo who cunningly have their own stash of mascot games to roll out exclusivly each year.
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30/06/2004 at 2:08 pm #13088AnonymousInactive
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30/06/2004 at 2:58 pm #13091AnonymousInactive
That is why I hate companies which port games across all platforms, unless they do it right of course.
Thankfully, Nintendo have plently of exclusive franchises and also have struck deals with 3rd parties for exclusive content. Microsoft have done the same but to a lesser extent.
I also think that the reason the PS2 was so “unique” ;) , is more to do with Sony not have a clue how to do things on the hardware side of things. Nintendo and Microsoft teamed up with industry heavyweights like IBM, Intel, Ati and Nvidia, which resulted in better balanced and developer friendly hardware. Sony just did things there own way and messed up in my opinion. I don’t think they were really thinking about restricting ports to other consoles when they designed their PS2.
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30/06/2004 at 3:00 pm #13092AnonymousInactive
Sony just did things there own way and messed up in my opinion. I don’t think they were really thinking about restricting ports to other consoles when they designed their PS2. [/quote:423ffe1668]
HEY!!!!
Don’t mock the emotion engine – I love my Toy Story PS2 graphics – ok!!?!
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30/06/2004 at 3:12 pm #13095AnonymousInactive
HEY!!!!
Don’t mock the emotion engine – I love my Toy Story PS2 graphics – ok!!?! [/quote:f97f730a8b]
lol… a bit of cynical humour is always welcome.
emotion………………
“hello this is fernadez, and your are listening to emtion, you know, people always say: “fernandez, how do you look so well?” and i say……………………………”
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