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October 12, 2008 at 5:55 pm #6974AnonymousInactive
I am certainly not much of a TV person but if there is one Reality TV show that has caught my eye over the past few years it’s Dragons Den.
Could this be the platform to draw attention to the games industry within Ireland? Could this be the show to draw awareness to the fact that Ireland is budding with game developers who leave to find employment within the industry?
Just curious what your views are of this?
October 12, 2008 at 6:48 pm #42567AnonymousInactive
October 12, 2008 at 7:59 pm #42568AnonymousInactive
I can’t imagine EA (as a person or the entity) would have been on it.
October 12, 2008 at 8:53 pm #42569AnonymousInactive
EA did feature in the god awful Apprentice where they were hosting a PR night for SPORE and Facebreaker.
October 12, 2008 at 9:18 pm #42570AnonymousInactive
Is that the Irish version of the Apprentice?
October 12, 2008 at 9:44 pm #42571AnonymousInactive
Is there an Irish version of the Apprentice, and/or the Dragon’s Den, or are you referring to the Brit/U.S. versions?
October 12, 2008 at 10:06 pm #42572AnonymousInactive
I can’t imagine EA (as a person or the entity) would have been on it.[/quote:94a584f192]
Perhaps we’ll soon see Richard Branson asking the dragons to cough up some money for his Virgin Galactic business? :P
October 12, 2008 at 10:10 pm #42573AnonymousInactive
Is there an Irish version of the Apprentice, and/or the Dragon’s Den, or are you referring to the Brit/U.S. versions?[/quote:8a7bbbc5c5]
There’ll be an Irish Dragons’ Den later this year on RTE. TV3 are currently showing the Irish version of The Apprentice. You can read up on it here:
October 12, 2008 at 11:16 pm #42575AnonymousInactive
EA did feature in the god awful Apprentice where they were hosting a PR night for SPORE and Facebreaker.[/quote:1bf9bac4dd]
EA in ireland are pathetic our EA rep for our store doesnt even play games… i was asking him about some upcoming games like dead space like what engine does it use and which ea studio is it coming from he was like whats an engine and studio??????
October 13, 2008 at 9:17 am #42577AnonymousInactive
DD seems sort of focused on products were you can get a patient or prove a gap in the market. Even showing a finished game that just needed marketing would be a hard sell given the competition and company failure rate.
October 13, 2008 at 9:28 am #42578AnonymousInactive
In fairness, I reckon in the UK version of DD, the dragons have enough business savvy not to touch a game that someone might say is the next thing. In ireland though, perhaps the dragons won’t be so smart…
October 13, 2008 at 9:45 am #42579AnonymousInactive
What might be cool but more than likely unworkable would be if a bunch of game companies from the UK came over as a panel and let people pitch to make small games like for the iphone that if one of the companies liked could part fund and get Enterprise Ireland to do something for once and fund the remainder.
Developers get wage and experience and company would buy Enterprise Irelands share out if they wanted to publish the end game and keep all sales revenue. Half price arm chancing.
October 13, 2008 at 10:19 am #42580AnonymousInactive
Would require EI to understand whats going on and UK company to invest time and money into a project thats overseas, so lots of time out of the office for them for the management of the project. Doesn’t really make much sense for them to do it really, not when they could do it in the UK much more easily…equal wages, less travel / time spent on management.
October 13, 2008 at 3:22 pm #42586AnonymousInactive
Yep its pie in sky, when have EI understood anything. :)
October 13, 2008 at 4:18 pm #42588Aphra KKeymaster
Don’t forget EI has invested in some Irish games companies before – some which have done well like the middleware companies and some which have not done so well.
A lot of people in Ireland have spent a lot of time working with EI on events and research in order to inform them about the industry. EI may know more than you think.
October 13, 2008 at 7:02 pm #42589AnonymousInactive
EI have been nothing but helpful to me in the past and they’ve also invested in the Irish games industry, as Aphra pointed out.
From my university research, they do seem to be one of the better IPAs in Europe. More power to ’em. 8)
October 14, 2008 at 8:36 am #42594AnonymousInactive
Perhaps I was a tad glib but would like to hear the strategy as EI always seem to work as the man behind the curtain, if a deal goes belly up I want to know a) that they are trying to attract games companies and b) why it didn’t work. Getting Houghton Mifflin Harcourt does not impress me.
October 14, 2008 at 10:27 pm #42603AnonymousInactive
Fair enough, I’ll admit I’m not in the know about EI, however the rest of my point still stands…why would a UK company invest in an Irish business when they can do it in the UK…
October 15, 2008 at 8:05 am #42605AnonymousInactive
The only way they would set up in Ireland is if it was significantly cheaper to do so. Corporate tax is quite low – does that affect small companies or does it only benefit mega employers? (MS, Dell, Intel etc..)
October 20, 2008 at 10:06 am #42664AnonymousInactive
EI are (IMHO) a top-draw IPA, I’ve worked with them often enough while I was in Dublin. I like to compare them to Japan’s MITI whenever I try to explain what EI is and does.
The Irish "tax advantage" is still of actuality, in fact never more so now that companies (wherever they may be, and whatever size) are looking at any ways and means of cutting costs.
Now, on top of that already-very appetizing cake, if you can find something in the development that’s worth patenting, then you can add some tax free goodness to that royalty income (under the patent(s)) as well. Not all of it of course, but a good chunk.
As for the DD format, it’s not all it’s cracked up to be – just remember that it’s made for entertainment. I currently work ‘peripherally’ with the UK show, in addition to working with two of their past ‘approved’ investment cases – that’s "approved in front of the cameras", but the behind the scenes stuff (the real biz you don’t get to see on TV) is edifying. And so far as that‘s concerned, you may as well not have any DD show :wink:
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