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February 13, 2008 at 12:29 am #6543AnonymousInactive
Just wondering what long-term impacts the purchase of Ageia by nVidia will have on commercial physics middleware (Havok), and non-commercial (ODE, Tokomak, etc.)
Is it too much of a dooms-day prophecy to foresee nVidia locking out the other Physics APIs from PPU/GPU to promote their own?
Is it likely that Havok and Intel will come up with some CPU hybrid, and CPU/PPU or some hydra-core processor with dedicated PPU access?
What else can we expect? Will Havok play nicer with educational bodies (non-commercial licenses and sdks)?
And in two years when all the dust settles, will this arms race begin once again with dedicated AI hardware? I know there is a crowd in Israel already working on dedicated hardware for pathfinding, graph traversal, D*, etc.
Is this to be the next iteration? If so, maybe its time to buy some shares. On second thought, that didn’t help the Ageia investors much…
Just my ramblings. Any thoughts?
February 13, 2008 at 1:13 am #40133AnonymousInactive
Just some follow-up links on the AI Hardware Cards in case anyone was interested:
News Article about it:
The "Ageia" of AI (apparently)
February 13, 2008 at 8:30 am #40134AnonymousInactive
Also of note in the Ageia aquisistion is th efact that last year NVidia developed proprietary technology for physics calculations (the "Quantum Effects" engine), so it’ll be interesting to see what happens next. I expect all sorts of GPU acceleration to the point that it becomes less of a video card and more of a powerful ‘utility’ card
February 13, 2008 at 9:50 am #40136AnonymousInactive
Wow it looks like nVidia and Havok may have been coordinating about etching PhysX out of the scene!
NVIDIA and Havok partnered up this year claiming that SLI systems would get massive performance gains by utilizing additional GeForce GPUs as physics processors. Quantum may be the fruits of that partnership, though NVIDIA documentation clearly states that Quantum will work just fine without SLI.
NVIDIA’s documentation claims Quantum will specifically compete with AGEIA’s PhysX, yet does not mention who is providing the middleware. Given that there are only two acts in town right now, it would be safe to say Havok has a hand in the Quantum engine.
February 16, 2008 at 7:39 am #40157AnonymousInactive
looks like nVidia are already adapting the PhysX kit to run on geforce 8’s
March 16, 2008 at 8:50 am #40483AnonymousInactive
Apparently, the link above cites nVidia will not be releasing any new PhysX PPU’s.
Instead they are going to implement PhysX through CUDA.
Is ATI going to do similar with HAVOK?
March 17, 2008 at 10:46 pm #40491AnonymousInactive
I think AMD own ATI, so I doubt it!!
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