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22/05/2003 at 11:12 pm #2794Jamie McKeymaster
Aphra, can you move this to the Game Development forum? I posted it to the wrong one
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27/05/2003 at 1:46 pm #9294Aphra KKeymaster
I can move it but perhaps it is better here as all the sections in game development at the moment are platform specific…
where do you suggest?
Aphra.
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27/05/2003 at 5:59 pm #9297AnonymousInactive
My motivation for selecting GBA:
1) every GBA is the same, no different hardware to cater for
2) you can download the entire development environment in one zip file
3) it is very well documented, and the architecture is very well thought out4) arm assembly is soooo much nicer the x86 (althought it’s not neccesary to know either)
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27/05/2003 at 6:00 pm #9298AnonymousInactive
and everyone that votes PS2 should be shot ;-)
what a horrible machine to develop for, but what a challenge as well ;-)
I really should invest some quality time with my ps2 linux kit ;-(
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02/06/2003 at 11:45 pm #9334AnonymousInactive
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03/06/2003 at 8:06 am #9336AnonymousInactive
You mean that PC games can be ported easily to XBOX? :-)
I’m not sure whether ps3 will be that much easier.. if it really is cell based, then there is a massive amount of parralel programming going on, which only makes things harder..
just imagine having one cpu for collision detection, one for physiscs, one for IA, one for triangle submission, and one for the actual rasterisation..
The management would be a nightmare :-)
Willem
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03/06/2003 at 9:50 am #9337AnonymousInactive
According to this month’s EDGE magazine, (the Half-Life 2 issue) the Playstation 3 will be even more difficult to program for than PS2 and this is partly deliberate. Apparently Sony don’t want developers without a certain level of skill and talent creating content for their new hardware. Hmmmmmmmmmm.
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03/06/2003 at 9:58 am #9339AnonymousInactive
Ah right, thats where i read that!
I really don’t understand the logical reasoning behind that
Why would you want to make it hard to be able to get good results??
I’d think that it’d be much better for sales and games, if it was easy to get great graphics out te system, so they can focus on making good gameplay!
Ah well, who knows what goes on in their minds ;-)
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03/06/2003 at 12:24 pm #9341AnonymousInactive
You mean that PC games can be ported easily to XBOX? :-)
[/quote:d8f909360f]Yea I was half a sleep when writing that :)
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03/06/2003 at 11:23 pm #9350AnonymousInactive
Easiest to program is probably the wrong way of putting it !
Size (like all things in life!), support docs/SDKs and closeness to the hardware are good indicators of how difficult it will be to program a particular game system.
The other factor is time. For commercial programming, you never have enough ! plus your programming experience. General programming principles apply to all software programs – most full time game programmers specialise in a core area (gfx, ai, online,physics) over time
BM
where is the makeGame() method ?
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04/06/2003 at 9:04 am #9351AnonymousInactive
Thats another reason why the GBA clearly is the easiest to prgram for :-)
Good documentation, and a single programmer can achieve considerable results in a relatively short time
There is no need to specialise in a certain area of the GBA, you can be an expert in all (thought REALLY mastering sound and multiplayer does take time)
Willem
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13/06/2003 at 2:23 pm #9368AnonymousInactive
According to this month’s EDGE magazine, (the Half-Life 2 issue) the Playstation 3 will be even more difficult to program for than PS2 and this is partly deliberate. Apparently Sony don’t want developers without a certain level of skill and talent creating content for their new hardware. Hmmmmmmmmmm. [/quote:381fa6e1a0]
Yeah I saw that quote too, but it really makes no sense to me. No one intentionally makes a platform difficult to develop for – that’s a huge risk to take considering all the millions of dollars it takes to get a consumer electronics device like a console all the way from design to the retailers on the high street. So I don’t buy that misguided quote in Edge too much… If the PS3 is a pain in the arse to develop for, it will be because Sony chose another wacky architecture that most vanilla games coders won’t be able to figure out for years, and coz Sony won’t have the time to put together decent examples and docs.
I voted for Java mobiles – with a caveat. Learning Java and the MIDP spec is fairly easily – the MIDP 1.0 spec is very small, as is the CLDC spec. However in practise, taking a product and supporting dozens of devices, in lots of languages, and taking into account devices-specific implementation bugs, ropey VMs, memory fragmentation erros, API bugs, device limitations and quirks… its an awful lot of work (just laborious – not especially difficult).
In all honesty, I’d probably say Xbox is the easiest.
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13/06/2003 at 2:29 pm #9371AnonymousInactive
I heard somthing about a quote like that a while back.
I think the gist of it was that Sony are hardware developers. They make shit-hot hardware. They don’t care too much about how hard it is for you to develop for it as long as you can do it. If they were primarily software developers things would be different, but they’re not, they are hardware manufacturers first that foremost. They’re hardware works and works well assuming you know how to use it.Damian.
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