iPhone game dev- Hard Coding vs GameSalad vs other?

I had a quick look at GameSalad, looks quite powerful.

You probably know yourself that by using a "game maker" like that you might find you can’t tweak something exactly how you’d like it because you’re not working from code and you’re limited by what GameSalad will let you use.

Also it’d be worth checking out how good GameSalad are at keeping up with the iOS updates. It could leave you stuck with only being able to develop for older devices for a while because they haven’t updated their tools to provide new functionality/patch a bug or something like that.

david4482 could probably give you some good advice on iPhone development.

yes plus the guys in Digital Sideburns and in Redwind software…

all doing iphone stuff

see http://www.redwindsoftware.com/

see http://digitalsideburns.com/about/

Aphra.

Hey Condra,

Straight off the bat I’ll tell you, you really should just put in the extra bit of effort and learn Objective-C, if you can program at all it isn’t nearly as difficult as the funky syntax indicates.

Check out cocos 2d, nearly all of the best simple 2d games on iOS are made with this framework. Personally we build all our games from scratch in pure Objective-C, but we will be looking very seriously at cocos2d in the New Year for a few games we are looking to put together

If you have any questions or looking for advice give me a mail conor@redwindsoftware.com and I’ll help you out as much as I can.

Also check out http://www.xcake.org which is the iOS and Mac OS developer community in Ireland

+1 on Cocos2D

Hi Condra,
If you want to eventually be hired as a ios games engineer it won’t do. The company I work for look for C++ first and then experience with Objective C.

Though for getting quick concepts together in a game designer capacity these sorts of tools are fine. I actually got interested in programming back in secondary school with tools like these – ‘Klick And Play’.

For just getting something on the store for kicks GameSalad should be fine for the the personal projects you have mentioned, especially if there are similar examples already on the store using it.

Alternative: I have heard some good things about Corona. But again as Anthony said, you may hit a barrier that it or GameSalad just can solve.
http://www.anscamobile.com/corona/

There are engines (mostly 3D focused) which make life easier on you and would look better on a CV. But are not as easy to pick up and get basic things running like Corona and GameSalad.

3D: Unreal Dev Kit, Unity, ShiVa3D etc.

But I think you will hear over and over to persevere with Objective-C if you can.

Corona looks really interesting, be good to find out how you get on. I’d recommend sticking to a high-level language if you want to develop games rather then learn archaic languages :-)

More importantly your game will run on IOS and Android which is going to be the reality for most mobile game devs from now on.

The one glaring limitation of Corona I can see is the ability to call native obj-c code on IOS / java on android. No abstraction is ever 100% and the ability to call native code means you have a get-out-of-jail card if you really need it.

If you were looking to do 3D I’d recommend Unity, but the cost of the license for ios/android dev is ridiculously prohibitive.

Other options would include HaXE (actionscript derivative) and of course Flash which hype-aside is actually a very viable alternative. No really.

-Peter

> I’ve been checking out Corona and it is ticking a lot of boxes.
> Lua seems to be ideal for me because I already have a bit of script
> savvy.

If you’re a Lua coder, also check out Shiva at http://www.stonetrip.com if you want to do any 3D work.

There is a free version, indie and pro. All of them will let you test on iPhone / Android etc.

Mal

If you want to work in 3D for the apple devices you might also like to check out the oolong engine (maintained by Wolfgang Engel – ShaderX series). It mixes objective c and c++.