John Car MAC k, giving the MAC attention, funny that. I gotta look more at his new engine but I’m not a big fan of the feel of doom 3. I’m thinking the new engine has also been coded on OpenGL and why not, it is once again giving Direct3D a run for its money! and it can run on linux, mac, windows, so it’s all good. Also heard vista will be supporting the latest release of OpenGL but it’ll be a downloadable update and not come as standard.