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26/07/2006 at 12:38 pm #5479AnonymousInactive
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone could give me a little more information on the above research position, i.e is any companies involved with this project and what would be the likely hood of a possible position be with an engine company upon completing this research position. I know these are very open ended questions, a lot of, well would depend! and what ifs? but any info would be appreciated.Cheers!
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26/07/2006 at 12:47 pm #32741AnonymousInactive
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone could give me a little more information on the above research position, i.e is any companies involved with this project and what would be the likely hood of a possible position be with an engine company upon completing this research position. I know these are very open ended questions, a lot of, well would depend! and what ifs? but any info would be appreciated.Cheers![/quote:3e46c05e18]am only speculating here, but this may well be with Instinct tech (formerly Torc) as LYIT have had similar positions with Torc before
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26/07/2006 at 1:08 pm #32747AnonymousInactive
Can the topic title be changed to LYIT – the propper acro for Letterkenny IT? LIT is Limerick IT.
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26/07/2006 at 1:13 pm #32748AnonymousInactive
Can the topic title be changed to LYIT – the propper acro for Letterkenny IT? LIT is Limerick IT.[/quote:7e2aecec31]good point, Lagrange… My post refers to LYIT and not LIT, just to be clear
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26/07/2006 at 1:34 pm #32750AnonymousInactive
Sorry my mistake LYIT. Yeah i am aware of torcs involvment in the past. The reason i ask is, i may be considered for the role (i could also be counting eggs here, but no harm in being positive) but i have recently been employed with an up and coming software house. Gaming is an area i would love to get into and this could be the ticket, that being said, i could be back to square 1 in 18 months if the research position does not lead onto a permanent position. My question really would be, suppose this would depend on my owm performance, but what would the likely hood of someone like torc taking me on?
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26/07/2006 at 1:48 pm #32752AnonymousInactive
If you’re looking positively, if you got this position, gained 18 months experience with their tech, pending your peformance and suitability to an available position, why wouldn’t they take you on?
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26/07/2006 at 1:59 pm #32754AnonymousInactive
There is no reason other than “available position”, that i would think of. But thats the one i am worried about! I understand this cannot be answered at this juncture, just throwing my thoughts out there, i appreciate the response! :)
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26/07/2006 at 2:08 pm #32755AnonymousInactive
18 months in the position is going to give you the experience to go out there and be confident about getting a job with any company really. Who knows what Torc are going to be doing then…
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26/07/2006 at 2:10 pm #32757AnonymousInactive
18 months in the position is going to give you the experience to go out there and be confident about getting a job with any company really. [/quote:6a3ce2c8cb]
^^^what he said.
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26/07/2006 at 2:14 pm #32758AnonymousInactive
The company i work for at the moment i have only been here four weeks. It is not game oriented but the software is designed to process data fast low latency middleware in a different area. But as i said not in the gaming industry. My dielema is not taking the research position if offered, it would be leaving a potentially good job. I am sure i will know what to do if and when the time comes. Cheers for the advise!
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26/07/2006 at 2:21 pm #32759AnonymousInactive
Just out of a matter of interest, i understand there is alot in for this, does anyone know how many positions there is going to be? Also has anyone been interviewed yet or been called to interview?
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26/07/2006 at 2:35 pm #32760AnonymousInactive
Ah fair enough…the should i leave my job scenario…I was there recently.
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26/07/2006 at 3:51 pm #32762AnonymousInactive
As far as I’m aware, there is only one position (I may be mistaken though), and the interviews have not yet taken place.
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26/07/2006 at 4:09 pm #32763AnonymousInactive
ok cheers for that. I think the interviews start in August.
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26/07/2006 at 5:06 pm #32764AnonymousInactive
the only people who can answer this for you are Instinct themselves of course – and they really won’t be in a position to answer that until the 18 months are up I would imagine.
But I would say that from my time in Torc that if you’re talented and work well with the team and you approach the position as a games programmer doing some research (as opposed to a researcher doing some games programming – a MAJOR distinction to bear in mind when discussing these research positions) – you would have a great shot at it (assuming you have the interest and aptitude for the research topic, etc.).
Either way, that 18 months will definitely not have been wasted and given the dearth of good games programmers out there, you will be well set up for another company if needed
Also, Dermot, Ronan, Chris and the rest of the Torc programmers are always on the look out for great programmers and they will find a position for you if they can, all the above caveats being true
The mistake most graduates make is thinking they are great programmers, but that’s another day’s rant ;)
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26/07/2006 at 5:10 pm #32765AnonymousInactive
The mistake most graduates make is thinking they are great programmers, but that’s another day’s rant ;)[/quote:0bd495ea5d]
Go on Tony…do you want me to start a new thread for you?
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26/07/2006 at 8:59 pm #32766AnonymousInactive
I think thinking you are a great programmer is the first step to becoming one! ;) . But time will tell, i hope to be in a position where i am always learing, thanks for all the insight, i am sure it will be of use!
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27/07/2006 at 8:44 am #32767AnonymousInactive
I think thinking you are a great programmer is the first step to becoming one! ;)[/quote:75b0d47698]
Or realising that you are not! If you already think you are a great programmer, then why bother trying to improve. Thinking you have the potential to be a great programmer is a different issue alltogether though, as long as you have the desire to fulfill your potential :)The mistake most graduates make is thinking they are great programmers, but that’s another day’s rant[/quote:75b0d47698]
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27/07/2006 at 9:05 am #32768AnonymousInactive
“The more you know the more you realise how little you know”
“One in the hand is worth two in the bush”
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27/07/2006 at 9:06 am #32769AnonymousInactive
I think thinking you are a great programmer is the first step to becoming one! ;) . But time will tell, i hope to be in a position where i am always learing, thanks for all the insight, i am sure it will be of use![/quote:9a3f17159b]
No no no!!
Thinking you’re a great programmer means you’re less likely to listen to the good advice much better people give you because you’re great and you’re way is obviously right.
I certainly don’t think I’m a great programmer, I have worked with a few though. -
27/07/2006 at 9:57 am #32770AnonymousInactive
Some good statement and thougts there ;) I think a good programmer knows that he can always improve! (As with anything in life really)And i do lack exerpience, but that will come. But i do enjoy a challenge and i look forward to them as they come. I am compedative i like to win, i like to think i can do something as well if not better than someone else, that being said there are a lot of people i look up to especially within magee and the NWIHFE and they deserve alot full credit for my success though-out my academic career. I think i turning point for me was (without mentioning names) when a lecturer pulled me a side before i left and told me that was one of the best natural programmers he had seen in a while. Even if i am still unexperienced i do trust his expertise and that he knows what he is talking about ;)
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27/07/2006 at 10:00 am #32771AnonymousInactive
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27/07/2006 at 10:03 am #32772AnonymousInactive
Some good statement and thougts there ;) I think a good programmer knows that he can always improve! (As with anything in life really)And i do lack exerpience, but that will come. But i do enjoy a challenge and i look forward to them as they come. I am compedative i like to win, i like to think i can do something as well if not better than someone else, that being said there are a lot of people i look up to especially within magee and the NWIHFE and they deserve alot full credit for my success though-out my academic career. I think i turning point for me was (without mentioning names) when a lecturer pulled me a side before i left and told me that was one of the best natural programmers he had seen in a while. Even if i am still unexperienced i do trust his expertise and that he knows what he is talking about ;)[/quote:91cf9f5b7d]hey, a healthy self-view is always a good thing… just don’t bring TOO much of it into the interview with you. Let your code do the talking
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27/07/2006 at 11:01 am #32774AnonymousInactive
Thanks for that Idora ;)
If offered the position, i would be taking it for the soul reason to learn and try and get involved in an industry i want to get involved in. In my current new job (which i am in only 4 weeks) reality did strike somewhat. The kind of work i am doing i have never done before, for the first two weeks i was completely lost, now i am ony lost! Lol! Everyone tells me it will take around six months before i really know what i am doing. So as much as i am confident in my abilities i am not unaware that as a graduate i have a long way to go. -
27/07/2006 at 11:30 am #32776AnonymousInactive
The kind of work i am doing i have never done before, for the first two weeks i was completely lost, now i am ony lost![/quote:fe0e61cb68]:)
Everyone tells me it will take around six months before i really know what i am doing. So as much as i am confident in my abilities i am not unaware that as a graduate i have a long what to go.[/quote:fe0e61cb68]6 months sounds about right to me for most (although I’ve seen some grads take only 3/4 mths). Sounds like you have the right attitude/ethic, tazboy. Good luck with it
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27/07/2006 at 11:49 am #32777AnonymousInactive
If offered the position, i would be taking it for the soul reason to learn and try and get involved in an industry i want to get involved in.[/quote:364de659e8]
If you are programming in a relevant language, then hanging in the job for 18 months is worth a lot more than going and doing an MA. Also note that just because a company is a games company does not make it an enjoyable place to work, the people that are around you and the ethos of the company are far more important deciders on whether you will enjoy what you do.Dave
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27/07/2006 at 12:25 pm #32779AnonymousInactive
Skyclad, you have been reading my mind Lol!, These thought i have been a pondering!! Ok at the moment i have only been working on configuration of our software i.e. how to build software against the verious middlewares, but as my buddy says you need to walk before you can run. So as far as development, i am not sure how much i will be doing in the next 18 months. Also i use to work in Intel and a piece of advise i was once given was to hold out for a job you want, the reason for this was explained as so. If you take a job in a certain field, that you do not intend saying in, it can be hard to get out of it as this field is now your area of expertise! THe MSc is not taught, its a research position so i do think i will learn alot. But i think its all about learning something that is relevent to what i want to do. (But as i said, i am getting way ahead of myself!!! But i appreciate the comments :) )
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27/07/2006 at 12:45 pm #32780AnonymousInactive
Sounds like you know what you’re doing.
I reckon the 6 month tag is about right, I got thrown in at the deep end (only 2 coders on my first project, me and the lead), so i had to learn fast, got the game done in 9 months. Then next project came along, with new tech and it took another while to feel comfortable again. And now a new company…it definitelly takes time.
I’ll just say one other thing, heed Idora’s adivce, its really hard to work with arrogant coders, really hard… -
27/07/2006 at 1:03 pm #32781AnonymousInactive
I would not say i would be arrogant, though i am sure thats what an arrogant person would say!! Lol. When i first got into programming i had a friend who had being doing it a lot longer than me, he was very good when i had a problem he took time out to show me how things where done and explained everything so could understand what it was i was doing. Moving forward through my uni career i tried to adopt that mentality, if someone needed help, i would do my best, not to simply do it for them but to try and explain so they knew what they where doing! This done two things 1. Made me look like a nice guy. 2. Really helped concrete my own understanding of the problem.
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27/07/2006 at 1:26 pm #32782AnonymousInactive
Like I said, really sound like you know what you’re doing :)
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