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April 9, 2004 at 9:16 am #3102AnonymousInactive
Jim Hill finally weighs in on the whole “Mickey’s Twice Upon a Christmas” controversy. Is seeing the Fab 5 translated into computer animated characters really something that’s worth getting steamed up over?
Read the article here
April 12, 2004 at 5:52 pm #11530AnonymousInactive
April 12, 2004 at 7:01 pm #11531AnonymousInactive
It looks to me as they perceive computer graphics to be an evolved version of animation. If you ask me though I’d say you should keep them separate. Toy Story wouldn’t really rock if it were traditionally animated and Mickey Mouse doesn’t really convert well to the CG world.
Sadly Carley, I think you’re right. End of an era indeed… :(
April 13, 2004 at 8:46 am #11537AnonymousInactive
Am I the only one never have heard the phrase ‘Fab 5’ in connection with these characters?
Check out this great CG:
Even the simpsons paint digitally now, it gives it that clean look which I dont like. Well generally I think the simpsons animation has lost its character. The early-ish seasons had great animation but now the models are too rigid and dead. :(
April 13, 2004 at 9:08 am #11538AnonymousInactive
April 13, 2004 at 11:04 am #11540AnonymousInactive
Am I the only one never have heard the phrase ‘Fab 5’ in connection with these characters?[/quote:987e8899ae]
what is the Fab 5??
April 13, 2004 at 11:07 am #11541AnonymousInactive
Mickey, Pluto, Donald, er…Ringo..zippy..I’m not sure but it has to included the first 3 anyway.
As I said, Never heard them called the ‘Fab5’ though, even when talked about in an I.P. way
April 13, 2004 at 11:10 am #11543AnonymousInactive
thanks Ivan…. at least that gives me some idea of what they were talking about
April 14, 2004 at 12:03 pm #11556AnonymousInactive
Toy Story wouldn’t really rock if it were traditionally animated and Mickey Mouse doesn’t really convert well to the CG world.[/quote:1852eaca3d]
I once heard John Lassiter himself say that Toy Story’s box office takings would not have suffered if it had been classically animated, that the story was everything. Some of the work being done on Non-Photorealistic Rendering is truly amazing, theres nothing like being fooled into thinking an “image” is 2D, then for the camera to majestically move around and reveal a scene in all its 3D glory with the look of an oil painting for example. (see some examples here) I reckon 2d will always exist as an artform, but its days in animated features are numbered. Fly, Pixar, fly!!
April 14, 2004 at 1:34 pm #11557AnonymousInactive
April 14, 2004 at 1:42 pm #11558AnonymousInactive
I actually agree with you Ronny, I don’t think it would have been anywhere near as headline grabbing if it was just another 2d feature.
April 14, 2004 at 3:09 pm #11562AnonymousInactive
I wouldn’t have watched, and I not a fan of pixar (apart from the tech).
I am sick of review for Pixar films saying ‘oh its a kids movie, but there are subtle jokes in there that will have the adults laughing more than the kids’
eh? me arse there are.
(sorry for veering off)
To steer things back on topic:
I’m sure some of you have seen this PC game ‘Pencil Whipped’
There was also this great mod for Quake that turned everything pencilly and sketchy looking, twas great.
April 15, 2004 at 10:37 am #11584AnonymousInactive
April 15, 2004 at 11:49 am #11593AnonymousInactive
I’d tend to agree with Ronny & Pete in that without the attention grabbing headlines, Toy Story wouldn’t have done half as well commercially
However, while I (and I’m sure some of you) went to see it because of the tech and/or treatment, I’m not sure that it wouldn’t have still worked as traditional animation
There was also this great mod for Quake that turned everything pencilly and sketchy looking, twas great.[/quote:2515452f62]
I thought that PencilWhipped was the Quake mod… wasn’t aware there was another similar type of thing. Do you know what it was called or have a URL for it, Kyotokid?
April 15, 2004 at 12:00 pm #11595AnonymousInactive
April 15, 2004 at 1:50 pm #11609AnonymousInactive
have to say, i think animation is alot better now 3d has started to come in. just look at the criminally deceased futurama. even the kids shows have started to cop on – look at ‘fairly odd parents’ for those that have nothing to do in the daytime except watch den tv.
on a seperate note visit the maxon website. they have a module for cinema 4d called ‘sketch and toon’ which can be used to make 3d looking cartoons. go to http://www.maxon.net/index_e.html and click on products on the top left, then go down to sketch and toon on the left. it all looks pretty cool.
on an even seperate note, if you have the time, on the home page, under quick links on the left, is the cinema 4d user gallery. take a wee gander through it, some of the work is nothing short of amazing
April 15, 2004 at 2:00 pm #11611AnonymousInactive
that’s great, Kyotokid – cheers
April 17, 2004 at 12:20 pm #11629AnonymousInactive
I have to say I’m not a huge fan of fake 2D, despite, or more likely because I’m a 2D artist.
To go back to several other threads on creativity and innovation, this is not artistically creative. However, do people out there like it? There are lessons that can be learned from 2D art, so hopefully this is just a transitional phase leading to brighter fields.
April 17, 2004 at 5:05 pm #11632AnonymousInactive
April 19, 2004 at 2:01 pm #11692AnonymousInactive
Sing it sister!!;)
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