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  • September 19, 2005 at 7:35 am #4561

    Anonymous

    This is very cool stuff:

    http://www.naturalmotion.com/pages/products.htm

    link to the download – Free Learning Edition Demo :

    http://www.naturalmotion.com/pages/le.htm

  • September 19, 2005 at 10:54 am #25123

    Anonymous

    i saw a video of that some while ago, it really is amazing stuff! I think Namco are using it on Teken5 now.

    it’s really bringing animation to a more technical end though – there’ll be a lot less hand animation done in future, if programs like this keep advancing the way they are.

    Still, on the positive side, it’ll make animating physical movement a lot faster & it looks like a lot of fun to use too! :)

  • September 19, 2005 at 2:18 pm #25135

    Anonymous

    The way it blends motion capture data with physical simulation is class.

  • September 20, 2005 at 2:09 pm #25170

    Anonymous

    :roll:
    I’m so looking forward to the day we’ll have this kind of stuff in realtime…
    There was this really cool article a while back about this guy using neural networks to help animate characters. I believe they used that technology in the Lord of the Rings (the last one, IIRC) for the battle scenes.
    Now that I think of it, that’s the kinda shit I’d love to do my MSc on, eheh.

    Philippe

  • September 20, 2005 at 2:14 pm #25172

    Anonymous

    Weta used ‘Massive” for the large battle scenes in Lord of the Rings. It’s an in-house built crowd simulation app. They also used Endorphin in conjunction with it, and as such, Endorphin has built in support for “Massive” files……

  • September 20, 2005 at 3:05 pm #25176

    Anonymous

    Yeah, I know about Massive, but I was thinking about something different.
    I am just trying to remember where I read that article about using the Neural Networks.
    Probably was a link on Flipcode, ah well…
    From reading the page, it sounds like what I read, actually. Must be them.
    Apparently, they used their technology in Troy. Might be what’s confusing me :oops:

    Philippe

  • September 20, 2005 at 4:41 pm #25183

    Anonymous

    You know there is a free version of Massive if you ask the right people…..

    Apparently Massive worked so well for LOTR, when it came to the first battle scene simulations, 30% odd of the combatants ran away in fear and didn’t fight at all!!! Obviously their bravery parameters were well tweaked for the finals

  • September 20, 2005 at 5:14 pm #25188

    Anonymous

    LMAO :P
    Like I explained my tutor: if clever and sensible AI was what we needed in games, the first thing they’d do would be to drop their weapons and run away. Not very interesting gameplay, there, eheh :wink:

  • September 20, 2005 at 6:52 pm #25190

    Anonymous

    You know there is a free version of Massive if you ask the right people….. [/quote:05a299e271]

    :twisted:

  • September 21, 2005 at 12:20 am #25191

    Anonymous

    I mentioned this Endorphin package before on this forum, with respect to how it matched up against MotionBuilder (5.5).

    I think steve_c from Havok came on and gave a lengthy informative piece, if anyone is interested in this sort of thing.

    It should be searchable, or archived somewhere on these forums…

    B.

  • September 21, 2005 at 8:30 am #25205

    Anonymous

    Motionbuilder and Endorphin are quite differant though to the best of my knowledge. You use motionbuilder to rig and animate characters and you use Endorphin to animate and simluate.
    I think they go hand in hand rather than competing against eachother….

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