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    • #4670
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      http://www.liberation.fr/page.php?Article=330655

      articles in French, maybe someone could translate for those of us whose only other language is klingon?

    • #26219
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      Mr Philippe could…but really its a lot to ask of someone. babel fish… it won’t be perfect but you could a vague notion whats it about from using it.

    • #26224
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      and make more sense than talking to a Frenchman LOL

      jk :P

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      Thanks Stepth, tis better than what I got from it…oh why oh why did I not spend more time learning french…

    • #26232
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      oh why oh why did I not spend more time learning french[/quote:fa859a3d9f]
      Didn’t you know…all languages apart from english are rubbish. The americans and the british speak it so it must be fantastic.

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      Wont this just start some sort of Boeing\Airbus subsidy war?

      Hopefully yes it will !

      Developers need to be subsidised ;)

      Its strange how Europe reacts differnently to “failure”…we subsidised whereas the US seems to say “tough s***, the market couldn’t support your company”

    • #26243
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      That’s because we care about each other…. and dont want to see the yanks coming over :lol:

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      Its strange how Europe reacts differnently to “failure”…we subsidised whereas the US seems to say “tough s***, the market couldn’t support your company”[/quote:16da44530d]

      Erm… I think that with a little bit of digging, you’ll find that the US gvt subsidises just as much as the EU (industry, agriculture and whatnot) – they just don’t call it ‘subsidising’ :wink:

      (in those immortal words from I-can’t-remember-which-movie, Independance Day I think, ‘you don’t think the US gvt willingly pays $5,000 for a toilet seat, do you?’ Apply that to -say- Boeing: I doubt that their R&D for the US military consumes all the sums invoiced to the Pentagon).

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      hey sorry about that, I only saw the post now :oops:
      glad somebody did it otherwise I know I just would have had to…

      And yeah, it’s a bit broken English, but ah, you get the gist of it, eh?
      Now I wonder, how many tax breaks could you get if you settled a game developement company in Corsica :D

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      errr this is going completely over my head…. :oops:

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      a little dig @ Phillipe’s own little dig and, re. Corsica, you either need to have visited the place for along enough time, or be French, to be aware of their ‘special status’ where taxes, subsidies, incentives and generally supporting measures are concerned – put it that way, I doubt anyone on that island is doing anymore than 4 hours’ work a week and they’re probably on double whatever you or I are on a year :roll: – not that I begrudge it to them, on the contrary I ‘m rather envious (and quite looking fwd to it, as that’s where I’m retiring, gents :D )

      So, in the context of the thread (subsidised VG industry), it makes a lot of sense, as not only would a Corsican studio benefit from the new tax credit, but there would most probably be a ton of other financial incentives of one shape or another that would allow one to run the studio on less than a shoestring in real cash terms.

      Only problems would be the monthly rent inclusive of ‘protection’ :wink: (said ‘protection’ not tracking inflation either, LOL), the not-so-international flight connections (got to fly to Orly, people – that’s the Paris South one, not the CDG one). For the rest, I believe Irish would do quite well, since already fully acclimatised with the small-island/rip-off prices dynamic :twisted:

    • #26276
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      You can fly from Calvi to Nice, then from there it’s not too hard to connect elsewhere :P
      Yeah, if it weren’t for all that Corsican mafia shtick, it’d be the nicest place to live in. I hope for you you have some connections there, or are married to a Corsican, cos it seems pretty tough if you are a “continental”.

      Then again, they told me the same about Donegal, and I’ll tell you, it’s a load of bollocks if you make the effort to integrate.

      Oh, and I believe the quote is: “La critique est facile, l’Art est difficile”. Cos it rhymes, you see :wink:

      For the rest, I believe Irish would do quite well, since already fully acclimatised with the small-island/rip-off prices dynamic [/quote:e138c0030c]
      Yeah, every summer I go there, and I keep thinking, “it’s really like Ireland, but with good food, good weather, and water you can swim in without arctic grade wet suit”.
      If it weren’t for the language, I bet it would quickly overtake Australia as a destination of choice for Irish immigrants :wink:

      I know I would. I just need to find a nice Corsican woman first :P

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      I believe Irish would do quite well, since already fully acclimatised with the small-island/rip-off prices dynamic :twisted:[/quote:f9014c787e]

      ahahaha classic!

      Small Islands would seem to make a tempting destination for any start-up

    • #26303
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      ribbit!

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      a little dig @ Phillipe’s own little dig and, re. Corsica, you either need to have visited the place for along enough time, or be French, to be aware of their ‘special status’ where taxes, subsidies, incentives and generally supporting measures are concerned – put it that way, I doubt anyone on that island is doing anymore than 4 hours’ work a week and they’re probably on double whatever you or I are on a year :roll: – not that I begrudge it to them, on the contrary I ‘m rather envious (and quite looking fwd to it, as that’s where I’m retiring, gents :D )
      [/quote:eca437f9a2]
      If sounds very much like Jersey is to us. It may be a dependency of the UK, but acquiring the right to live there is far from easy. You need to have rented a home there for ten years or have family from the isle. Affording to live there or even fly to there is not the cheapest either. I think it was voted the most expensive place in the UK to fly as to well as the most expensive place to live. Gotta love those family connections to make things so much easier.

      EDIT: Although come to think about it, I bet you still insist that Jersey is French! :P

    • #26342
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      Jersey, French?!? Nah, you can keep it – I prefer the Mediterranean climate, ‘ta very much :lol:

      With regard to the (apparently) formal requirements for moving to Jersey, there’s no such thing for Corsica – by any means, if you want to live there, just fly reasonably cheaply from Nice or Paris, or catch a ferry from Toulon or Marseille, and that’s pretty much that.

      But what Phillipe & I were on about was more the insularity of Corsicans, who “prefer it that way”, if you will – they want their cake and eating it (“Le beurre et l’argent du beurre”, for Phillipe :wink: ), which, to an extent, they are:

      * they get the benefits of French citizenship (with all the subventions, NHS, dole, etc, etc that it entails),
      * along with specific provisions (‘for hardship’ :lol: ) because they’re Corsicans and they live on an island (which they also get),
      * and have a raft of special Statutes thaty applies only in Corsica, for example in relation to property (you’ve got to get an entire family’s consent to buying any kind of land or property, not just from the owner’s: his parents/kids/cousins/nephews/etc, etc.)

      They don’t like non-Corsicans, do not welcome them, and as a matter of fact are quite pro-active in outing any such ‘newcomer’ (miscellaneously bomb the place, torch the car, intimidate the kids, etc, etc, not to forget ‘special prices’ for anything for ‘them foreigners’) – the parallel, as I see it, is more like Northern Ireland, really :cry: (past extensive terrorism for obtaining independance, & some still ongoing but more crime/extortion-related).

      I’m lucky enough to have a family name that’s reasonably common in Corsica (even though it’s not – it’s Italian), so should be OK…-ish. But the place is worth the aggro, definitely.

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